McCoy, I see where you're coming from. I guess my issue is that using only one tournament as the reset point for the year's points seems like it would skew the rankings far greater than using 2012's results plus 2013's results (ideally with 2013 results getting weighted heavier). Since you brought ...

We get it. Panik was really good in 2011 and won a tournament in 2013. McCoy's given us two different options to get Panik ranked really high. And if we don't like either of those options, we just don't get it. Get it? This ranking is supposed to reflect where teams currently stand--not where they ...

That's all I got. See ya'll in DC as the 7 or 8 seed.

dp3 wrote:What happened to wanting to use the previous 3 years' results?

Follow along now.

I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand? Going into any new year you don't really know where teams stack up...so using as much available data is best to rank the first tournament a team plays in. After a team plays a tournament in the new year you now have data to rank them in that current y...

I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand? Going into any new year you don't really know where teams stack up...so using as much available data is best to rank the first tournament a team plays in. After a team plays a tournament in the new year you now have data to rank them in that current y...

I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand? Going into any new year you don't really know where teams stack up...so using as much available data is best to rank the first tournament a team plays in. After a team plays a tournament in the new year you now have data to rank them in that current ye...

I thought the goal of these rankings were to help with seedings at each tournament in 2013? Again, seems to me that 2012 results shouldn't be factored in after a team has played one tournament in 2013. Are the Meatballs & OSC guaranteed the #1 or #2 seed at every tournament they attend just bec...

Also, can someone post the actual points? The RANKINGS link doesn't work for me.

I thought the goal of these rankings were to help with seedings at each tournament in 2013? Again, seems to me that 2012 results shouldn't be factored in after a team has played one tournament in 2013. Are the Meatballs & OSC guaranteed the #1 or #2 seed at every tournament they attend just beca...

I was thinking that your first tournament played in the new year would be based upon your complete book of games in the previous calendar year, not just your last. So even if Meatballs lost in the sweet 16 at CCC12, I would still have them #1 for their first tournament of 2013. After a team has been...

Trey: You won't drop, you'll get passed, big difference. Your points stay the same, others have just earned more. McCoy: What's the cut-off then? Surely using only the 3 data points in 2013 wouldn't yield an accurate result either. I think the rankings are great going into a teams first tournament ...

Dorsey wrote:Sitch will stay ahead of Flying V. It's Panik who's going to drop a few spots. Maybe they can get Trey some reffing bonus?

If this happens there will be too much emphasis on 2012. I want to see what teams are ranked in 2013, not 2012.

April release?

So, is there any contingency plan if a circuit tournament happens upon weather that would prevent us from playing a full tournament on a Saturday?... would the tournament go straight to single-elim based on the seedings if there is time for 4 games after a weather delay? if there is only time for 2...

Why are we not using 2011 data for this formula?

I realize this is probably beyond comprehension but you could always do a blind draw. Whenever I have teams complaining about this, I have the captains show up either the night before or day of and we draw names/ping pong balls out of a hat literally and you pick the pool/bracket you want to be in....

Is it possible to make a change to the formula that will give more points for each round of single elim, while not causing the losing teams to lose more points for each round of single elim? For example- Make it so a win in the sweet 16 gets you a little more of a bonus then a win in pool play, the...

People just like to complain. Last year, there was a lot of complaining about tournaments using subjective seedings. The Expert Power Poll took a lot of crap. Now Admin and Eddie come up with a ranking system that is very detailed and objective, and a bunch of people complain again. Look at the met...

I already have the results, so I know the methodology is wrong. But it is what it is. Previous statements said two years of results would be used. Carry on. If that's true you have reason for complaint. Someone who has some time on their hands should find where this was written and link to it/quote...

I just have one quick question about the Established Teams part. Does "played in a Circuit event" only pertain to a 2013 event or would that count for a team that played in any Circuit event from 2011 or 2012? Starting in 2013, Established Teams will receive an initial rating based on the...

Typod wrote:

McCoy wrote:I'm not going to read about the methodology.

Seems this would make you exempt from critique.

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I already have the results, so I know the methodology is wrong. But it is what it is. Previous statements said two years of results would be used. Carry on.

Sorry road dog but the in "their backyard" theory doesn't hold water here. A number of teams won tournament in "their backyard": OSC, V, LBC, MB, etc. So that point is pretty much invalid. Also, I was joking about Brick and Admin. I hear Brick prefers blondes. I'm not busting on...

I'm not going to read about the methodology. I know 13 teams that are "expected" to beat PA when we play now. Good for them. Shit, 18 teams "expected" to beat Fully Loaded. My @ss.

I'm pretty sure when this was announced on how the rankings would be done it was said that "they" would take into account the last 2 years of circuit records/data . This was clearly not done. Probably because it didn't produce the results that "they" had wanted. Ranking a team ba...

Was there a fan favorite all star team announced?

Ok so assuming that the teams ranked below J-Cru all just shift 1 spot then the new pools should look like the following with only pool A having 6 teams and all the others have 5 teams: (changes in italic) Pool A #1 The Situation #10 Sofa King Good #11 Whiskey Richard #20 Rockstar Lifestyle #22 Sur...

Only if JKI and Meatballs played in separate divisions when they qualified and he played on both teams. Something somewhat close happened. Zak will remember. Was it DP or someone else on a different team and then switching over to Meatballs? i do remember that. i want to say it was someone from, li...

Circuit tourney win, FC tourney win, MVP...boom, done.

From what I've seen this year...My vote would be for Corey Holland or Blake. Nobody is more valuable to their team than those guys. Also, you can take my name off the list. Although I feel I'm getting close to being able to play like I did last year, there are others more deserving this year of this...

Zimmerman tried to make up for it.

Of course double-elimination wouldn't work in a 6 team tournament. Bad example. Should have done round robin with the top 4 advancing with 6 teams. Looks like a great tourney.

PA won't have JC, but we are getting healthy & will have a full squad. Going to be some tight games with one-bounce.

JellyDogg wrote:I'd probably rank the post-merger Lo' Tussin at #3 or 4 in this tourney.

Which players are you adding? Lots of OSC?

I think Kim posted somehwere that the pool announcement will be at the meet n greet. It would be cool to get it before that.

Adding Brick and Ad-Rock would be a big boost for Relax if that's true. You think anyone will cry roster foul if they win? Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2 Unortuantely I won't be able to make the trip anymore as GoKickball scheduled their tournament on the same day. AdRock and I both register...

btaylor wrote:Chip- LSKO. I thought it was weird you had points when i was doing it.

Mccoy - what would you give people that don't make single elims? 20?

Can't rank everybody...but if only 8 make elims, then give those that didn't a 16

I'd like to see an "avg finish" ranking. A 1 ranking for winning, a 2 for second, a 4 for a semifinals appearance, an 8 for a quarters appearance, etc.

CCC in Orlando or DC!

I think Sitch lost to Meatballs at FC, not OSC. I may be wrong though, I'm getting old.