New 2009 WAKA WKC Guidelines Posted

[Lost_Sage]

Hey folks ... the link to the new Championship Guidelines is up:

http://www.kickball.com/files/WAKA_Worl ... s_2009.pdf

Initial highlights:

(1) Team DQ from division tournament for unsportsmanlike conduct (either regular season game DQ or division tournament game DQ) is now a bar to FC

(2) Deadlines are:
(a) Division completion - 08/13/09
(b) Acceptance of FC invitation - 08/25/09 (captains only)

(3) Check-in can be accomplished at the host hotel or before the first game

(4) Clarifications to WKCR ranking:
(a) Ranking = Regular season weight + Division tourney weight
(b) Tiebreakers = Better division tourney record > Lowest combined RA > RPS

(5) Time limits
(a) Any inning begun must be completed.
(b) Clarification on extra innings: Automatically start new ones up to 70 minutes; WAKA discretion to start extra ones beyond 70 minutes.

(6) Seeding after pool play
(a) WLTF weight > Head-to-Head > Total RA (changed from RD) > Higher Initial Seed
(b) FF = 5-0 (and corresponding WLTF weight)

(7) Rules resolution: CTR in charge of game must issue a final ruling even after consulting Field Manager

I'm happy to relay any questions/concerns to Central, who has asked that I do so -- we are getting this a week before the official announcement in the next KT ...

[Retired]

Sweet. I saw nothing banning beer on the field. Yeah!


Or sprite!

[The Scorekeeper]

tweasy brought up a point the other day about division length.

WTF

I am venting, because I think what they did is gay. And here I go:

In our WAKA league, we had 10 regular season games with only 7 teams. We were the only undefeated team with the closes team with 2 losses (which was against us). They just posted the standing and they have the "full" season standings with all 10 games and than the "official" WAKA standings with only 8 games. That is fine, but the way they did it is crap. They took the 2 lowest games and threw them out. This means that the "official" WAKA standings there are 2 undefeated teams. Us and the team we beat twice. I don't mind them taking out the 2 worse "2nd" game match up between teams. But to take both away is crap. With only 7 teams in a league, all teams should have played each other. 2 undefeated team tells me they haven't.

Whatever, we got our bid to Vegas. I don't care about the seeding in Vegas. However, some of you might care about the seeding. Before we were 10 wins and 9 RA. Now we are 8 wins and 3 RA. That hurts you all. I know the RA will change come division tourney time and we could even lose, but I still think it is crap.

I am done now.

so, is this right? does waka only count 8 games total? what about the divisions that play more than that? which games get thrown out? or did his division just get needlessly screwed out of two games?

[JellyDogg]

Sprite is for post-games... only water and , in extreme circumstances, Gatorade (sorry, um, "G") are appropriate in-game beverages.

[Lost_Sage]

Well, the WKCG didn't change the division tourney guidelines ... so those still control WLTF weighting ...

tweasy brought up a point the other day about division length.

so, is this right? does waka only count 8 games total? what about the divisions that play more than that? which games get thrown out? or did his division just get needlessly screwed out of two games?

[Retired]

Sprite is for post-games... only water and , in extreme circumstances, Gatorade (sorry, um, "G") are appropriate in-game beverages.

And I thought you had a problem. It looks like you have it under control. No SA (Sprite Anonymous) meetings for you.

[Retired]

Well, the WKCG didn't change the division tourney guidelines ... so those still control WLTF weighting ...

tweasy brought up a point the other day about division length.

so, is this right? does waka only count 8 games total? what about the divisions that play more than that? which games get thrown out? or did his division just get needlessly screwed out of two games?

If I am reading you correctly, the 2 games they took out doesn't control the WLTF weighting. The "official" WAKA records is based off the 8 game modified record. This 8 game record is what WAKA will be seeing.

Oh well. It is what it is. It doesn't bother me, but I know it would bother some others. Because if they beat us and win the division tourney they will have a 100% WLTF % (with 2 losses) and have a lot higher ranking for Vegas than at 84.6%.

[Zak]

Well, the WKCG didn't change the division tourney guidelines ... so those still control WLTF weighting ...

tweasy brought up a point the other day about division length.

so, is this right? does waka only count 8 games total? what about the divisions that play more than that? which games get thrown out? or did his division just get needlessly screwed out of two games?

If I am reading you correctly, the 2 games they took out doesn't control the WLTF weighting. The "official" WAKA records is based off the 8 game modified record. This 8 game record is what WAKA will be seeing.

Oh well. It is what it is. It doesn't bother me, but I know it would bother some others. Because if they beat us and win the division tourney they will have a 100% WLTF % (with 2 losses) and have a lot higher ranking for Vegas than at 84.6%.

Last summer in Hartford, one our teams that qualify did so with a record of 10-0-2 and would have a .916 ranking. If only 8 regular season games count than their record is 9-0-2 giving them a .909 ranking. Now if we get to pick and choose which of the 9 games played count towards the rankings they could finish with a 10-0-1 record and a .945 ranking. Seems kinda trivial yeah, but depending which way you go, a one loss team with 9 games and 3 in the tournament can range from a .909 to a 1 ranking, depending on when in the season they lost the game if WAKA only counts 8.

also, if WAKA requires 8 regular season games, then how does this affect the South Florida divisions that have traditionally (and I think still do) play only a 7 game regular season?