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[Circuit] Rule Book v.2011 Change Log

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Postby admin » January 14th, 2011, 6:20 pm

This is the official CHANGE LOG for the Circuit Rule Book v.2011.

We will be posting the final PDF of the Rule Book soon. However, we wanted everyone to see the changes compared to v.2010 since it's ready.

CHANGE LOG v.2011:

4.2.1.5. However, once League Play Games reach the Playoff Stages, they are governed by Rule 4.2.3, dealing with Single Elimination Playoff Games.
4.2.2.3. Ties are allowed in Pool Play Games.

Sidebar chart to accompany rules 4.2 through 4.8 – chart is attached as stand-alone document (not posted to Forum).

Added due to NYCGN issue:
4.5.4. Teams cannot, under any circumstances, opt out of the Last Tiebreaker procedure selected by the Event Manager prior to the Event.

New Eligibility Requirements Doc – replaced rules in 7.1 that refer to player, roster, and Circuit Team eligibility. New numbering in Rule 7 is as follows:

7. Eligibility, Lineups, Injury, & Sportsmanship

7.1. Eligibility
7.1.1. Players, Rosters, Lineups, and Teams must meet the Eligibility Requirements at all times.
7.1.2. Players who do not meet the Eligibility Requirements cannot play a Circuit Event.
7.1.3 Teams who do not meet the Roster or Lineup requirements must comply or forfeit each Circuit Event game until compliance is achieved.
7.1.4 Any use of ineligible players not on the submitted Circuit Event Roster will automatically result in a forfeit of the game and any remaining games in that Circuit Event. That Circuit Team will receive additional penalties determined by the Rules Committee.

7.2. Lineups
7.2.1. Offensive (Kicking) Lineup
7.2.1.1. Team Captains must exchange written Kicking Lineups at start of each game. The Kicking Lineup is valid for the current game only and may be changed between games.
7.2.1.2. Teams may request clarification on the identity and/or sex of kickballers on the kicking lineup.
7.2.1.3. The Kicking Lineup may contain more than ten (10) people, even if these Kickers do not play the field.
7.2.1.4. Substitutions to Kicking Lineup (Not Allowed)
7.2.1.4.1 Every player that a Team wishes to use in a game must be on the Kicking Lineup. A team may only use players on its Kicking Lineup during a game. It may not use a player on the Roster not playing in the game.
7.2.1.4.2. The kicking lineup cannot change during the course of a game, unless due to injury. See Injury, Rule 7.3, for clarification.
7.1.1.4.3 If a team player cannot kick at the designated spot in the Kicking Lineup, that player’s “at kick” will be counted as an out, unless due to injury.

7.2.2 Defensive (Fielding) Lineup
7.2.2.1. No more than ten (10) players can take the field at one time.
7.2.2.2 Each Team's Defensive Lineup must have at least four (4) women.
7.2.2.3. A Team may have only one (1) Pitcher and only (1) Catcher in the field.
7.2.2.4. Substitutions to Fielding Lineup
7.2.2.4.1. Each team may replace its Pitcher and/or Catcher position once per inning, unless injury forces another substitution. A player substituting in for Pitcher or Catcher is not required to be currently playing on defense.
7.2.2.4.2. There is no limit to replacing any other defensive position besides Pitcher or Catcher during a given inning or game.

7.3. Injury
7.3.1. In cases of injury or illness, a time-out may be requested by the Team Captain for a player removal and replacement with a substitute of the same sex.
7.3.1.1. An injured player who later returns to play must be inserted in the same place in the written Kicking Lineup previously held. If after returning to play, the player becomes re-injured and is removed, that player may not play the rest of the game.
7.3.1.2. However, any player removed due to injury at least three (3) times during a given Circuit Event or day of league play will not, under any circumstances, return to play any Circuit game on that day.
7.3.2. If a player is ejected, injured, or becomes ill and cannot continue, the Team’s Kicking Lineup will continue in the same order, minus the removed player. In the case of an ejected player, this removed spot will count as an automatic out. See Outs, Rule 9.1.13, for clarification.
7.3.3. Injured players who do not kick shall not play in the game.
7.3.4. Any player removed from the game for injury or illness must be noted on both Teams’ Kicking Lineups and mentioned to the Game Head Referee.
7.3.5. Only players running who are injured while traveling to a base, and who successfully make it to a base, may receive a substitute runner. All runner substitutions must be of the same sex. There are no other allowable runner substitutions.

Clarify fielder can tag for out and renumber

9.1.4. Any time a pitched ball kicked into play makes contact with a Baserunner who is not on base (absent a Baserunner who has overrun first base) is an out. See Equipment, Rule 6.5, for clarification on Baserunner contact.
9.1.5. Any time a Fielder contacts a Baserunner who is not on base (absent a Baserunner who has overrun first base) with the ball, via a throw or a tag (with the exception of Rule 9.1.6), is an out.
9.1.6. If any part of a ball thrown, kicked, or otherwise deflected by a Fielder at a Baserunner makes first contact with the Baserunner on any part of the head or neck while the Baserunner is not diving, not sliding, or not ducking, the Baserunner shall be awarded the base to which s/he was running.
(Rest of rule 9.1 renumbered to reflect inserted section)

Change to pitching rule

9.2.3. A Pitcher must deliver each pitch:
9.2.3.1. On or behind the encroachment line;
9.2.3.2. With the plant foot, upon release, behind the pitching strip and no more than 1 foot to the side of the pitching strip; and,
9.2.3.3. Having started and finished the pitching motion within the upper half of the Pitcher’s Circle (bounded by the edge of the Pitcher's Circle nearest to second base and the diameter of the Pitcher's Circle that is collinear with the encroachment line between first and third base). See Encroachment, Rule 9.7.3, for clarification. The Pitcher’s Circle extends in a 6 foot radius from the pitching strip. See Diagram 10.1 for clarification regarding the Pitcher’s Circle.

9.7.1. All Fielders, with the exception of the Catcher, must be positioned with at least one foot in fair territory until the ball is kicked.

Dot rule added for dislodged bases

9.9.6 If a base becomes dislodged during play, the Baserunner is considered on base while maintaining contact with the square area on the field representing the original location of the base.
(rest of rule 9.9 renumbered accordingly)

Revisions based “the ball is fair or foul, not the fielder” feedback:

9.12. Fair Ball Plays - A legally kicked ball is fair if it:
9.12.1. Passes the front of home plate; AND
9.12.2. Has not landed or rolled completely outside of either baseline (subject to the exception in Rule 9.13.1.1); AND,
9.12.3. Is positioned on any part of a foul line OR between the two foul lines when it:
9.12.3.1. Is first touched by a Fielder or Baserunner; OR
9.12.3.2. Stops completely; OR
9.12.3.3. Strikes 1st base or 3rd base; OR
9.12.3.4. Passes 1st base or 3rd base in the air, after having landed on a foul line or between the two baselines before such passage; OR
9.12.3.5 Lands past 1st base or 3rd base.
9.12.4. The fielder's position when fielding the ball is irrelevant to whether the ball is fair.
9.12.5. See Diagrams 10.2, 10.3, 10.4, 10.6, and 10.10 for Fair Ball/Foul Ball Play Examples.
9.12.5. See Diagrams 10.2, 10.3, 10.4, 10.6, and 10.10 for Fair Ball/Foul Ball Play Examples.

9.13. Foul Ball Plays
9.13.1. Any legally kicked ball that travels into foul territory outside the Catcher’s Zone on its own prior to reaching the 1st base or 3rd base cone is foul.
9.13.1.1. However, a kicked ground ball may bounce in and through the Catcher’s Zone, as well as through the territory between the Kicking Box and before the base lines, so long as it crosses the first and third baselines between the two cones marking the Kicker’s Box. If it does so, it is a fair ball. If a kicked ball is fielded at any point before crossing the baselines, it is a foul ball.
9.13.2. Any legally kicked ball that is still inside the Catcher’s Zone when it is touched by a Fielder is foul.
9.13.3. Any legally kicked ball first touched by a Fielder or Baserunner while it is completely outside either foul line (subject to the exception of any ball described in Rule 9.12.1) is foul.
9.13.4. A double kick (any time the Kicker contacts the ball two (2) or more times during an attempted kick) results in a foul. This kick, while illegal, is not considered a dead ball play.
9.13.5. Any kick that occurs above the waist of the Kicker is a foul. See Kicking, Rule 9.8.1.1, for clarification. This kick, while illegal, is not considered a dead ball play.

Diagram Revisions:
Diagram # Description Filename (Diagrams v.2011)
10.2.1 New fair/foul diagram clarifying which side is fair territory. Diagram10.2.1-NEW
10.4.2 Revised diagram clearly needs to show doesn’t exist AND that ball can bounce through gray area and get fair. Diagram10.4.2-NEW-DRAFT-sd
10.6.1 Label “Fly Balls” Revised diagram clearly needs to show examples 2 and 3 are now foul. Diagram 10.6.1-NEW-DRAFT-sd
10.6.2 Label “Bouncing Balls” Revised diagram clearly needs to show that even when ball bounces, fielder position is irrelevant Diagram10.6.2-NEW-DRAFT-sd
10.6.3 Label “Ground Balls” No change needed. Diagram10.6.3-NEW
10.8.1 New diagram allowing the 1’ rule. Diagram10.8.1-NEW
10.9.1 Revised diagram needs to clearly show Catcher’s Zone vs. Kicking Box Diagram10.9.1-NEW-DRAFT-sd
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Postby MEATBALLKEVIN » January 14th, 2011, 7:47 pm

So if a ball is bunted/kicked in between the cones and rides the foul line on the foul side and comes back in to play before 1st or 3rd it is fair?
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Postby JellyDogg » January 17th, 2011, 9:49 am

MEATBALLKEVIN wrote:So if a ball is bunted/kicked in between the cones and rides the foul line on the foul side and comes back in to play before 1st or 3rd it is fair?

Foul. I believe the "catchers zone" includes what was known as the "gray area." If it goes foul at any time outside of that before reaching 1st or 3rd it is foul.
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Postby 2_easy » January 17th, 2011, 10:34 am

admin wrote:9.13.4. A double kick (any time the Kicker contacts the ball two (2) or more times during an attempted kick) results in a foul. This kick, while illegal, is not considered a dead ball play.
9.13.5. Any kick that occurs above the waist of the Kicker is a foul. See Kicking, Rule 9.8.1.1, for clarification. This kick, while illegal, is not considered a dead ball play.



I am assuming this means that it plays like a foul. When the ball hits the ground, play over. If it is popped up and caught. Play is live (tag up and run, etc).

yes, no, maybe?
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Postby JellyDogg » January 17th, 2011, 10:41 am

Correct
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Postby crAsh » July 19th, 2011, 1:15 pm

I'm trying to get the current Rule Book but every link I click says the document is not available...can someone point me to an active link??
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Postby JohnPWilks » July 19th, 2011, 1:24 pm

crAsh wrote:I'm trying to get the current Rule Book but every link I click says the document is not available...can someone point me to an active link??

admin wrote:We've noticed scribd is/was forcing users to pay to print the rule book- we're sorry for the confusion. We've updated the URL on our site to allow anyone to find the Circuit Rule Book at http://bit.ly/k365rules2011.

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Postby Kickbot » July 19th, 2011, 1:26 pm

admin wrote:7.2.1.3. The Kicking Lineup may contain more than ten (10) people, even if these Kickers do not play the field.


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Postby Dematas » July 19th, 2011, 1:26 pm

Kickbot wrote:
admin wrote:7.2.1.3. The Kicking Lineup may contain more than ten (10) people, even if these Kickers do not play the field.


?


What wrong with that Oak?
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Postby jCast » July 19th, 2011, 1:30 pm

Dematas wrote:
Kickbot wrote:
admin wrote:7.2.1.3. The Kicking Lineup may contain more than ten (10) people, even if these Kickers do not play the field.


?


What wrong with that Oak?


Seems like a good allowance that helps to cover unfortunate injury substitution.
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Postby JellyDogg » July 19th, 2011, 1:30 pm

crAsh wrote:I'm trying to get the current Rule Book but every link I click says the document is not available...can someone point me to an active link??

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B8WEAw2fzEOlNzhjOTdjNWUtYWVhMy00MGVjLThlMzAtNTNjN2Y3MTIxYTI2&hl=en_US
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Postby Kickbot » July 19th, 2011, 1:32 pm

Dematas wrote:
Kickbot wrote:
admin wrote:7.2.1.3. The Kicking Lineup may contain more than ten (10) people, even if these Kickers do not play the field.


?


What wrong with that Oak?



never mind. I misread it.
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Postby crAsh » July 19th, 2011, 1:32 pm

why do i get:

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Postby jCast » July 19th, 2011, 1:34 pm

crAsh wrote:why do i get:

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EVERY TIME?


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Postby Dematas » July 19th, 2011, 1:35 pm

Kickbot wrote:
Dematas wrote:
Kickbot wrote:
admin wrote:7.2.1.3. The Kicking Lineup may contain more than ten (10) people, even if these Kickers do not play the field.


?


What wrong with that Oak?



never mind. I misread it.


I thought you were trying to keep Nick DeVita from playing. :@
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Postby Kickbot » July 19th, 2011, 1:38 pm

Dematas wrote:
Kickbot wrote:
Dematas wrote:
Kickbot wrote:
admin wrote:7.2.1.3. The Kicking Lineup may contain more than ten (10) people, even if these Kickers do not play the field.


?


What wrong with that Oak?



never mind. I misread it.


I thought you were trying to keep Nick DeVita from playing. :@



I thought it said "...may contain more no than ten (10) people..." and was thinking "WTF, why is nobody talking about this?"
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Postby JohnPWilks » July 19th, 2011, 1:42 pm

Kickbot wrote:I thought it said "...may contain more no than ten (10) people..." and was thinking "WTF, why is nobody talking about this?"

That would make the game ridiculously competitive and would be my favorite way of playing competitive kickball. That or only 12 kickers, but that's my personal preference. It'll be a long ways away before that even comes close to being a reality.
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Postby Dematas » July 19th, 2011, 1:46 pm

JohnPWilks wrote:
Kickbot wrote:I thought it said "...may contain more no than ten (10) people..." and was thinking "WTF, why is nobody talking about this?"

That would make the game ridiculously competitive and would be my favorite way of playing competitive kickball. That or only 12 kickers, but that's my personal preference. It'll be a long ways away before that even comes close to being a reality.


The rules have already been changed to make the game easier for the kicker. This would make teams have less people, not sure how that would help grow competitice kickball though. I guess it depends on what everyone feels competitive kickball means.
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Postby crAsh » July 19th, 2011, 1:47 pm

jCast wrote:
crAsh wrote:why do i get:

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EVERY TIME?


Ugh, women. You have to COAX it. It will eventually pop up for ya. :lol:


It's not loading shit. It just has a big question mark by the pages and had at one point been sitting there for 20 minutes that way. This thing friggin hates me...

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Postby JellyDogg » July 19th, 2011, 1:54 pm

crAsh wrote:
jCast wrote:
Ugh, women. You have to COAX it. It will eventually pop up for ya. :lol:


It's not loading shit. It just has a big question mark by the pages and had at one point been sitting there for 20 minutes that way. This thing friggin hates me...

Someone's lost her touch... :lol:
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Postby crAsh » July 19th, 2011, 1:56 pm

JellyDogg wrote:
crAsh wrote:
jCast wrote:
Ugh, women. You have to COAX it. It will eventually pop up for ya. :lol:


It's not loading shit. It just has a big question mark by the pages and had at one point been sitting there for 20 minutes that way. This thing friggin hates me...

Someone's lost her touch... :lol:



WOAH :rofl:

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Postby JohnPWilks » July 19th, 2011, 2:01 pm

Dematas wrote:
JohnPWilks wrote:
Kickbot wrote:I thought it said "...may contain more no than ten (10) people..." and was thinking "WTF, why is nobody talking about this?"

That would make the game ridiculously competitive and would be my favorite way of playing competitive kickball. That or only 12 kickers, but that's my personal preference. It'll be a long ways away before that even comes close to being a reality.


The rules have already been changed to make the game easier for the kicker. This would make teams have less people, not sure how that would help grow competitice kickball though. I guess it depends on what everyone feels competitive kickball means.

I believe competitive kickball means more than just having really good athletes on your team, stacked rosters, having a shit ton of really fast people, being able to kick 10 guys in a row, or having the best girls. Don't get me wrong, that is all important, but I believe competition should also be about who plays the game the best and beating the other team in a mental chess match, with substitutions, pinch kickers, pinch runners, calculated risks and equaling the playing field.

Honestly though I don't think that we'll ever get to the type of kickball I'm thinking of, and I'm fine with that. I love the game no matter how it's played. If I didn't, I wouldn't use up my vacation time, or take unpaid leave to travel to these tournaments.
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Postby Dematas » July 19th, 2011, 2:06 pm

JohnPWilks wrote:
Dematas wrote:
JohnPWilks wrote:
Kickbot wrote:I thought it said "...may contain more no than ten (10) people..." and was thinking "WTF, why is nobody talking about this?"

That would make the game ridiculously competitive and would be my favorite way of playing competitive kickball. That or only 12 kickers, but that's my personal preference. It'll be a long ways away before that even comes close to being a reality.


The rules have already been changed to make the game easier for the kicker. This would make teams have less people, not sure how that would help grow competitice kickball though. I guess it depends on what everyone feels competitive kickball means.

I believe competitive kickball means more than just having really good athletes on your team, stacked rosters, having a shit ton of really fast people, being able to kick 10 guys in a row, or having the best girls. Don't get me wrong, that is all important, but I believe competition should also be about who plays the game the best and beating the other team in a mental chess match, with substitutions, pinch kickers, pinch runners, calculated risks and equaling the playing field.

Honestly though I don't think that we'll ever get to the type of kickball I'm thinking of, and I'm fine with that. I love the game no matter how it's played. If I didn't, I wouldn't use up my vacation time, or take unpaid leave to travel to these tournaments.



You didn't seem to want to be a part of reffing this. :rofl:
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Postby JellyDogg » July 19th, 2011, 2:08 pm

crAsh wrote:
JellyDogg wrote:
crAsh wrote:
jCast wrote:
Ugh, women. You have to COAX it. It will eventually pop up for ya. :lol:


It's not loading shit. It just has a big question mark by the pages and had at one point been sitting there for 20 minutes that way. This thing friggin hates me...

Someone's lost her touch... :lol:



WOAH :rofl:

I may have to take away my Thank You edit!!

Hey, I'm not the one that replied to JCast's comment by essentially saying "I've been trying for 20 min but it's still just sitting there." I keeps it real on the MB.
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Postby JohnPWilks » July 19th, 2011, 2:16 pm

Dematas wrote:
JohnPWilks wrote:
Dematas wrote:
JohnPWilks wrote:
Kickbot wrote:I thought it said "...may contain more no than ten (10) people..." and was thinking "WTF, why is nobody talking about this?"

That would make the game ridiculously competitive and would be my favorite way of playing competitive kickball. That or only 12 kickers, but that's my personal preference. It'll be a long ways away before that even comes close to being a reality.


The rules have already been changed to make the game easier for the kicker. This would make teams have less people, not sure how that would help grow competitice kickball though. I guess it depends on what everyone feels competitive kickball means.

I believe competitive kickball means more than just having really good athletes on your team, stacked rosters, having a shit ton of really fast people, being able to kick 10 guys in a row, or having the best girls. Don't get me wrong, that is all important, but I believe competition should also be about who plays the game the best and beating the other team in a mental chess match, with substitutions, pinch kickers, pinch runners, calculated risks and equaling the playing field.

Honestly though I don't think that we'll ever get to the type of kickball I'm thinking of, and I'm fine with that. I love the game no matter how it's played. If I didn't, I wouldn't use up my vacation time, or take unpaid leave to travel to these tournaments.



You didn't seem to want to be a part of reffing this. :rofl:

HAHA, it's different when it's done essentially after every pitch, but when it's done between plays and in a timely manner then it's ok. I think the main reason I wanted to get things going was because I had not checked into my hotel yet, and I knew the longer the game went, the less time I would have to enjoy the after party...
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Postby crAsh » July 19th, 2011, 2:17 pm

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Ugh, women. You have to COAX it. It will eventually pop up for ya. :lol:


It's not loading shit. It just has a big question mark by the pages and had at one point been sitting there for 20 minutes that way. This thing friggin hates me...

Someone's lost her touch... :lol:


WOAH :rofl:

I may have to take away my Thank You edit!!

Hey, I'm not the one that replied to JCast's comment by essentially saying "I've been trying for 20 min but it's still just sitting there." I keeps it real on the MB.


;) I appreciate that.
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Postby Dematas » July 19th, 2011, 2:26 pm

HAHA, it's different when it's done essentially after every pitch, but when it's done between plays and in a timely manner then it's ok. I think the main reason I wanted to get things going was because I had not checked into my hotel yet, and I knew the longer the game went, the less time I would have to enjoy the after party...


Haha, that's comedy. Did you have an official clock on that game?
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Postby JohnPWilks » July 19th, 2011, 2:34 pm

Dematas wrote:
HAHA, it's different when it's done essentially after every pitch, but when it's done between plays and in a timely manner then it's ok. I think the main reason I wanted to get things going was because I had not checked into my hotel yet, and I knew the longer the game went, the less time I would have to enjoy the after party...


Haha, that's comedy. Did you have an official clock on that game?

Yes. Game started at 4:11. Ended at 5:37. Played only 5 innings in 1HR 10 minutes, then the COT.
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Postby Dematas » July 19th, 2011, 2:46 pm

JohnPWilks wrote:
Dematas wrote:
HAHA, it's different when it's done essentially after every pitch, but when it's done between plays and in a timely manner then it's ok. I think the main reason I wanted to get things going was because I had not checked into my hotel yet, and I knew the longer the game went, the less time I would have to enjoy the after party...


Haha, that's comedy. Did you have an official clock on that game?

Yes. Game started at 4:11. Ended at 5:37. Played only 5 innings in 1HR 10 minutes, then the COT.


Thanks, that's crazy.
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Postby kim dude » July 19th, 2011, 3:10 pm

what constitutes completely over the foul line? the part where the ball is touching the ground or a vertical plane from the side of the ball? in soccer, it's based on the side of the ball
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