Who's Going to Win?

[J Hard]

DUMPSTER FIRE aint nothing to f with !!

(I know they are not that name for vegas)

Stop kissing ass and give us your pick!!!!

DF. I played against them 3 times in 09 and watched them win the NYC tourney .

Never saw MIH play so cant pick them . Fb is my # 2 pick . So im saying my pick from outside of Fla is DF.

Thanks, Kev. We appreciate the kind words but we're better when people don't believe in us...

I'm picking Meatballs to win it all.

[machinegunkelly]

All FL final...Meatballs vs Tricky Bunnies...Tricky Bunnies win it all.

...child please

[Duh]

Doesn't really say much about Screw The Team then. If Ludicrous Speed was mediocre, then you should have easily run up the score. All you needed was 8 runs in the final game to get the final Wild Card spot last year. Technically we screwed "Screw The Team". Score was 0 ~ 2.

I'm pretty sure you didn't screw anyone. Screw the Team was just too down from losing to Frosty. A good portion of the team thought we were automatically eliminated because of the loss.

[kim dude]

What I meant by the refs is. Sometimes ref have to make a call that is close and can go either way with arugment. The team that wins it must have some calls go there way.

Unless a team just pure dominates everyone which I don't see that happening.

A ref has to make a call one way or the other. If it's that close guess what, you're not gonna get them all.

I can tell you that I will be sober for my games. I know this because I expect MIR and FB to make it deep (if not all the way)in the brackets. As President of Shore Division I would recuse myself from reffing semi's and finals involving them. Also, the reffing schedule is set, we know who is reffing where all the way through quarters, regardless of the game outcomes. The question of perceived partiality was brought up on the conference call and ref's can switch assignments if they have relationships with the teams they are assigned to ref.

[Zak]

Doesn't really say much about Screw The Team then. If Ludicrous Speed was mediocre, then you should have easily run up the score. All you needed was 8 runs in the final game to get the final Wild Card spot last year. Technically we screwed "Screw The Team". Score was 0 ~ 2.

I'm pretty sure you didn't screw anyone. Screw the Team was just too down from losing to Frosty. A good portion of the team thought we were automatically eliminated because of the loss.

Dave is right, it was WAKA who screwed the team by giving the wild card out based on run differential instead of runs against which they later admitted should have been the tie breaker.

[Dry Heat]

I just can't get excited about AZ kickball. We played Ludicrus Speed after the Frosty game and we were so down on the field we were terrible on the offense. I thought they were mediocre. That's why I really don't consider WKYB either.

We realize kickball originated on the East Coast, but it's incredible how much the level of play has increased out west (even in the 3 years we've been a team). We're looking forward to hopefully playing well and having a good # of west coast teams represent. See you all Saturday!

[MEATBALLKEVIN]

Doesn't really say much about Screw The Team then. If Ludicrous Speed was mediocre, then you should have easily run up the score. All you needed was 8 runs in the final game to get the final Wild Card spot last year. Technically we screwed "Screw The Team". Score was 0 ~ 2.

I'm pretty sure you didn't screw anyone. Screw the Team was just too down from losing to Frosty. A good portion of the team thought we were automatically eliminated because of the loss.

Dave is right, it was WAKA who screwed the team by giving the wild card out based on run differential instead of runs against which they later admitted should have been the tie breaker.

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What wild card woud they have had?

[Zak]

Doesn't really say much about Screw The Team then. If Ludicrous Speed was mediocre, then you should have easily run up the score. All you needed was 8 runs in the final game to get the final Wild Card spot last year. Technically we screwed "Screw The Team". Score was 0 ~ 2.

I'm pretty sure you didn't screw anyone. Screw the Team was just too down from losing to Frosty. A good portion of the team thought we were automatically eliminated because of the loss.

Dave is right, it was WAKA who screwed the team by giving the wild card out based on run differential instead of runs against which they later admitted should have been the tie breaker.

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What wild card woud they have had?

They would have been tied with Sofa King Good for the 1st Wild Card and beaten out Super Bad

[MEATBALLKEVIN]

Doesn't really say much about Screw The Team then. If Ludicrous Speed was mediocre, then you should have easily run up the score. All you needed was 8 runs in the final game to get the final Wild Card spot last year. Technically we screwed "Screw The Team". Score was 0 ~ 2.

I'm pretty sure you didn't screw anyone. Screw the Team was just too down from losing to Frosty. A good portion of the team thought we were automatically eliminated because of the loss.

Dave is right, it was WAKA who screwed the team by giving the wild card out based on run differential instead of runs against which they later admitted should have been the tie breaker.

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What wild card woud they have had?

They would have been tied with Sofa King Good for the 1st Wild Card and beaten out Super Bad

So would we of had them?

[Zak]

Dave is right, it was WAKA who screwed the team by giving the wild card out based on run differential instead of runs against which they later admitted should have been the tie breaker.

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What wild card woud they have had?

They would have been tied with Sofa King Good for the 1st Wild Card and beaten out Super Bad

So would we of had them?

Don't remember what they used as after runs against, but if they went to run differential they would have had Hey Whoa with SKG scoring more runs.

[KILF Hunter]

I am on a plane now as we speak using Air Tran WiFi. See everybody at the WAKA party tomorrow night...I'll be rolling into Planet Hollywood tonight.

Gotta go with Frosty Balls, Others, or Meatballs.

The Ballers and Shot Callers are looking forward to meeting the Tricky Bunnies in pool play.

-Kilf Hunter

[Dematas]

Dave is right, it was WAKA who screwed the team by giving the wild card out based on run differential instead of runs against which they later admitted should have been the tie breaker.

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What wild card woud they have had?

They would have been tied with Sofa King Good for the 1st Wild Card and beaten out Super Bad

So would we of had them?

Don't remember what they used as after runs against, but if they went to run differential they would have had Hey Whoa with SKG scoring more runs.

Ok, so they would have played one more game.

[Dematas]

I am on a plane now as we speak using Air Tran WiFi. See everybody at the WAKA party tomorrow night...I'll be rolling into Planet Hollywood tonight.

Gotta go with Frosty Balls, Others, or Meatballs.

The Ballers and Shot Callers are looking forward to meeting the Tricky Bunnies in pool play.

-Kilf Hunter

You had better be ready to go against them with no excuses.

[Tweasy H Whoa]

Just curious for you Founders cup historians (ZAK, Shane). How many favorites have actually won the Founders cup in the last few years? Was Frosty Balls even in the top 5? What about the FL team that won it, were they even contenders?

I am asking for I don't know. Please break down the past few Founders cups and show where the winners were ranked (shanes poll) going into the cup?

Thanks

[Zak]

... How many favorites have actually won the Founders cup in the last few years? ...

Thanks

from what I remember, Frosty was considered a dark horse by everyone not named Trey. You can check in the archived tournaments to see what Shane said, but I don't think he had them as a favorite. As far as DWAKP, I don't think anybody had them winning nor did anyone think they could beat KA (same with FU v Gonzo). If I remember correctly a fair amount of people were less than complimentary of DWAKP after their video was posted in the weeks leading up to the tournament. The last favorite to win was probably KA in '06

[Paniky 69er]

It's been three years since one of the top five favorites has won. KA was favored in both the 2006 Founder's Cup and the 2006 Leader's Cup--they took home both trophies.

The two FL teams in Boston '08 flew completely under the radar on their way to the finals--knocking off then ranked #1 KA and #2 Gonzo in the semis. Last year, Shane had all four of the FL teams (DWKP, Meatballs, Screw the Team, and Young Guns) ranked in the top eight along with KA, Gonzo, Hey Whoa, and Sofa King Good. Only KA, Gonzo, Hey Whoa, and Meatballs made it to the Elite Eight.

Last year I was the only person telling people that Frosty should be considered one of the favorites.

[Tweasy H Whoa]

... How many favorites have actually won the Founders cup in the last few years? ...

Thanks

from what I remember, Frosty was considered a dark horse by everyone not named Trey. You can check in the archived tournaments to see what Shane said, but I don't think he had them as a favorite. As far as DWAKP, I don't think anybody had them winning nor did anyone think they could beat KA (same with FU v Gonzo). If I remember correctly a fair amount of people were less than complimentary of DWAKP after their video was posted in the weeks leading up to the tournament. The last favorite to win was probably KA in '06

it sounds like Post KA domination....there has never been a clear favorite?

[Jared It Up!]

I think we will always see about 8 teams who can win the FC on any given day.

[Duh]

Ok, so we would have only played one more game.

Fixed it for you buddy...

[Dematas]

Ok, so we would have only played one more game.

Fixed it for you buddy...

Haha, nice. If you all have the team I saw at the FL tourney in Jan, I think you guys could be dangerous on Saturday.

[Tweasy H Whoa]

how about this one. From the past few Founders cup, which teams have surprised you the most? Champions? Elite 8? Whatever? And who has disappointed you the most?

[NoShoes]

I think that Frosty, Meatballs, and MiR have the best chance of making it all the way through.

I hope I get to see some FL teams play, so I can get a better understanding of how good they really are.

I'm still bummed that the 3rd String didn't make it past the wait list.

[GldGluv]

I'm still bummed that the 3rd String didn't make it past the wait list.

Me too....I think if 3rd string played well, you'd compete with anyone.

[Dematas]

Tricky Bunnies have no depth? Out of all people you should know how I manage and run a team...We will be having 8 guys and 4 girls playing which means more times up for the top of the order....

I'll tell you one thing...the team that is going to win it will be the team that makes the least amount of errors and GETS the calls by the REFS!!! The refs play a HUGE part in this game and it sucks that you might get stuck with a ref who is BIAS!!!

Did you really lose a game on purpose and not do your homework on WKYB?

[machinegunkelly]

Tricky Bunnies have no depth? Out of all people you should know how I manage and run a team...We will be having 8 guys and 4 girls playing which means more times up for the top of the order....

I'll tell you one thing...the team that is going to win it will be the team that makes the least amount of errors and GETS the calls by the REFS!!! The refs play a HUGE part in this game and it sucks that you might get stuck with a ref who is BIAS!!!

Did you really lose a game on purpose and not do your homework on WKYB?

Trickies had a 2 run lead with two outs to go....don't c the point your trying to make

[Dematas]

Tricky Bunnies have no depth? Out of all people you should know how I manage and run a team...We will be having 8 guys and 4 girls playing which means more times up for the top of the order....

I'll tell you one thing...the team that is going to win it will be the team that makes the least amount of errors and GETS the calls by the REFS!!! The refs play a HUGE part in this game and it sucks that you might get stuck with a ref who is BIAS!!!

Did you really lose a game on purpose and not do your homework on WKYB?

Trickies had a 2 run lead with two outs to go....don't c the point your trying to make

That WKYB is a good team.

[Jimmybeans2]

I knew WKYB was a decent team....We had the game won and totally messed up...

[Dematas]

I knew WKYB was a decent team....We had the game won and totally messed up...

I see, so if you win that game you made the right move and prob make the final four? Either way, it's risky business, as you know.

[Jimmybeans2]

def would of made it to atleast the final four....

that team from Cali was horrible! Balls Deep lost that game...

If you would see the brackets and our road to the finals you would of did the same thing!

[Dematas]

def would of made it to atleast the final four....

that team from Cali was horrible! Balls Deep lost that game...

If you would see the brackets and our road to the finals you would of did the same thing!

I did see your bracket, but I would not have done the same thing.

[Dematas]

def would of made it to atleast the final four....

that team from Cali was horrible! Balls Deep lost that game...

If you would see the brackets and our road to the finals you would of did the same thing!

BCB made it to the finals and you are calling them horrible, c'mon.

[Catch-22]

def would of made it to atleast the final four....

that team from Cali was horrible! Balls Deep lost that game...

If you would see the brackets and our road to the finals you would of did the same thing!

BCB made it to the finals and you are calling them horrible, c'mon.

That dude talks out his ass.

[CONNOR]

BCB wasn't horrible by any means, but there is no excuse for us losing a game we're up 4-1 in late innings.

Guess that's just the way the ball bounces sometimes and in our case it bounced into a two run homerun.

[BOUW]

def would of made it to atleast the final four....

that team from Cali was horrible! Balls Deep lost that game...

If you would see the brackets and our road to the finals you would of did the same thing!

In close matchups it usually does come down to who makes the errors, and who can capitalize on them. Balls Deeper was an awesome team and that was a great game.

I guess making it to the finals, mercy ruling 4 teams on the way there and allowing only 10 runs in the tournament (if I recall)makes us horrible.

Thanks for the props Connor, we all had an amazing time playing you.

[The Sofa King]

I watched BCB play aginast the Texas team and in the Finals. They can definately play and dominated the Texas team that hadn't given up a run in the tournament to that point including beating WKYB who beat Tricky Bunnies.

The game of the tournament may have been the Riff Raff vs. Others semifinal, but BCB was by all means a worthy finalist.

[cadidasc6]

Tipsy Bunnie Jimmy.. you are clearly still wasted from all the weekend festivities because it sounds like you are simply acting like the bitter step child of the other legitimate Florida teams. i.e.. Meatballs, Riff Raff, Balls Deep.