Tourney Update

[machinegunkelly]

How good is this Bevin girl?....all I have read is Bevin Bevin Bevin...

[Zak]

How good is this Bevin girl?....all I have read is Bevin Bevin Bevin...

Blonde girl, formerly of Blue Balls and Make It Rain, now on The Core

[machinegunkelly]

How good is this Bevin girl?....all I have read is Bevin Bevin Bevin...

Blonde girl, formerly of Blue Balls and Make It Rain, now on The Core (?)

Thx for the analysis mel kiper jr....what else u got?

[JellyDogg]

3rd String as a whole played very average that day, probably because so many of us have never played together. We didn't suck, but we didn't blow the doors off anybody, either. I know I had maybe 1 good game the entire day (it just so happened to be the finals).

My opinion of EC (or whatever name they went by that day) was that they had some very legit pieces, but they lacked consistent offense and had too many defensive holes to really compete with the big dogs of the day (MiR, Frosty). Having said all that, this was last year, and I don't know who they have added/cut since then, but I will say they were not that far off from having a stout team capable of taking down anyone. I'd say they were probably 4 or 5 people away from getting there, so it is entirely possible that they now have those 4 or 5 people they needed. I would prepare for a tough game if I had them on the schedule.

On a side note, I've heard good things about Chris Brown's Backhand on here numerous times, but the team they brought to that tournament was just plain bad. They only brought 9 people (needed Scorekeeper to play for them so they wouldn't forfeit, which they ended up forfeiting after pool play, anyway). EC was a good team, but I really wouldn't hype a win over CBB in that tournament as a marquee win for the franchise.

[JellyDogg]

How good is this Bevin girl?....all I have read is Bevin Bevin Bevin...

She's good. One of the most consistent bunters you'll see. She's also very solid on defense.

[Paniky 69er]

Bevin is good. She has the best arm in the Division. I'd say she's definitely a top 10 girl in Shore/Recess.

[machinegunkelly]

Bevin is good. She has the best arm in the Division. I'd say she's definitely a top 10 girl in Shore/Recess.

Does EC have any girls that would be top 10 in shore?

[Paniky 69er]

On a side note, I've heard good things about Chris Brown's Backhand on here numerous times, but the team they brought to that tournament was just plain bad. They only brought 9 people (needed Scorekeeper to play for them so they wouldn't forfeit, which they ended up forfeiting after pool play, anyway). EC was a good team, but I really wouldn't hype a win over CBB in that tournament as a marquee win for the franchise.

Yeah, from what I understand CBB was missing so many key players that they should have only gone by Hand.

[Paniky 69er]

Bevin is good. She has the best arm in the Division. I'd say she's definitely a top 10 girl in Shore/Recess.

Does EC have any girls that would be top 10 in shore?

They just picked up Molly from AO. Molly is probably the best girl in Shore.

[Zak]

How good is this Bevin girl?....all I have read is Bevin Bevin Bevin...

Blonde girl, formerly of Blue Balls and Make It Rain, now on The Core (?)

Thx for the analysis mel kiper jr....what else u got?

One of the top females on Blue Balls, didn't really stand out much on MiR (but then again, most of the MiR girls would be the #1 female on a majority of teams in WAKA), and although I haven't seen them play I heard she played a major roll in the success of Ladies Night Out.

[machinegunkelly]

Bevin is good. She has the best arm in the Division. I'd say she's definitely a top 10 girl in Shore/Recess.

oes EC have any girls that would be top 10 in shore?

They just picked up Molly from AO. Molly is probably the best girl in Shore.

Where do EC play? Why don't they join shore? Or the paper champs don't like competition?

[Paniky 69er]

They play in Hampton. It's like 15-20 minutes away.

[Zak]

Bevin is good. She has the best arm in the Division. I'd say she's definitely a top 10 girl in Shore/Recess.

oes EC have any girls that would be top 10 in shore?

They just picked up Molly from AO. Molly is probably the best girl in Shore.

Where do EC play? Why don't they join shore? Or the paper champs don't like competition?

Geography, there more like a team that would have to travel to Shore to find better competition than paper champs.

[machinegunkelly]

They play in Hampton. It's like 15-20 minutes away.

Then why r they dodging u guys trey?

[Paniky 69er]

I'm not sure why they've never played Shore/Recess. They are definitely a big fish in a very, very small pond in Hampton...so maybe that has something to do with it.

[machinegunkelly]

I'm not sure why they've never played Shore/Recess. They are definitely a big fish in a very, very small pond in Hampton...so maybe that has something to do with it.

They sound like a boca team we all know...

[kim dude]

I'm not sure why they've never played Shore/Recess. They are definitely a big fish in a very, very small pond in Hampton...so maybe that has something to do with it.

Probably the same reason most people from southside don't go play in Peninsula...nobody likes having to cross the bridge tunnel. A lot of the EC players have played on southside teams (at one time AO was 50% EC players) and they sort of fielded a team in Recess '09 as Super Hampton Intensity Team (although it was not really an EC roster). It's easy to say "why don't you just drive the 15 miles to play Shore" but what people from outside the region don't understand is what a pain in the ass those 15 miles are. Besides, Brent's the Peninsula WAKA rep.

[Bundy]

EC is about to have some competition. I know a couple of players that are going to start playing on that side of the water. I don't think EC will have it as easy as they think. "That is why they play the game"

[Zak]

They play in Hampton. It's like 15-20 minutes away.

Then why r they dodging u guys trey?

To be a little bit more specific, the distance between where EC plays and Shore plays would be inbetween the distance between the Beach/Reef fields, and Beach/West Palm fields with a big ass bridge added along the trip.

[kim dude]

I'm not sure why they've never played Shore/Recess. They are definitely a big fish in a very, very small pond in Hampton...so maybe that has something to do with it.

They sound like a boca team we all know...

I would not compare them to any of your Fla DB teams. Don't buy into Trey's "they're hiding in a weak division" BS. They're a Weds night team and there are no teams that field the same roster in more than one division here.

[xxxjboyxxx]

This is a very amusing thread.

EC ok you guys beat us in the Hampton Tournament...our team Lost plain and simple.

The way I look at it.....EC needs to step up to the Major Leagues one of these seasons and see how they do. All this debate of EC being one of the Top teams in Winter Recess is all speculation. Who knows where you guys would of fallen. You could of been at the top or you could of been in the middle. You guys have a good team, but you'll never know. This winter Recess season has been a very competitive with the top 5 teams being a step above the other 10. These 5 teams are the most consistent of any other. Sloppy only lost 2 games, and we were in 5th place.

Every team losses players and some even gain new players. Every goal for all you guys is to get better and better. I've never played with the exact team season after season, since i've been playing. You deal with your losses and gains, and then see how good your team really is.

[Paniky 69er]

Probably the same reason most people from southside don't go play in Peninsula...nobody likes having to cross the bridge tunnel.

The reason nobody goes from here to there is because the Peninsula league sucks. I used to work in Hampton. You work in Hampton. If it were as horrible a commute as you make it out to be, nobody would cross the tunnel for work unless it was the only job they could find.

EC already has +50% of their roster playing in Recess/Shore, and all of their key players play here. All they need to do is sign up their squad for Recess/Shore and prove that they're one of the top 3-6 teams in this area.

[VTDelgado]

Hampton is only 15-20 minutes away without traffic. During the week, it would take 45 minutes to drive to their fields due to the rush hour traffic. Many kickballers even before the Peninsula Division was formed, had trouble getting across the river. I do like the kickball dedication that many Hampton/Peninsula kickballers have towards the sport but its not reciprocated by the Shore/Southside kickballers.

[kim dude]

Probably the same reason most people from southside don't go play in Peninsula...nobody likes having to cross the bridge tunnel.

The reason nobody goes from here to there is because the Peninsula league sucks. I used to work in Hampton. You work in Hampton. If it were as horrible a commute as you make it out to be, nobody would cross the tunnel for work unless it was the only job they could find.

EC already has +50% of their roster playing in Recess/Shore, and all of their key players play here. All they need to do is sign up their squad for Recess/Shore and prove that they're one of the top 3-6 teams in this area.

50% of their roster played on 3 different teams, if they can't bring their full roster why would the play as a team? Peninsula is not that bad. They have some good teams and they have some mediocre teams and they have some drunk teams. EC has the benefit of having players get to play against stronger teams, which benefits their team as a whole. 5 O'clockers and Foul Balls could merge into a top team if they wanted but that's not how that division works, their teams actually tend to stick together. Not everybody wants to be a flash in the pan top team.

You're fucking delusional, the commute fucking sucks. I should know, because I've been doing it for 8 1/2 years. I do it because I love my job and love living at the beach, but there are days when it takes me over 2 hours to get home from work. I actually played in Peninsula as a way of avoiding rush hour traffic.

[JohnPWilks]

Yeah, from what I understand CBB was missing so many key players that they should have only gone by Hand.

CBB had only 8 of their Shore Roster that day, with a couple players playing a position they never played before. We added The Scorekeeper out of necessity because we had a female decide not to show up. (And I will say that we were technically the 1st team to score on EC that season )We ended up forfeiting the elimination bracket, because 2 of our players got called into work.

EC has the talent, and I believe that they would of been 6th in Shore (i.e. right where ViDF placed). What remains to be seen and what will hopefully be answered in TKO is how good they really are. I see them as a 2nd-Tier team that is on the verge of 1st-Tier, but lacks the competition in The Peninsula to really challenge them.

All of this talk is subjective to past performances. Players and teams have split (poached), formed new teams, added to new teams, etc., etc. so it pretty much means nothing. They are all opinions. Put the game on the field where ALL players from each team can play and let's see what Happens....

[VTDelgado]

Bevin is good. She has the best arm in the Division. I'd say she's definitely a top 10 girl in Shore/Recess.

Does EC have any girls that would be top 10 in shore?

EC has Nicole who plays for Sloppy in the Recess Division. Definitely a top 10 girl.

[kim dude]

Bevin is good. She has the best arm in the Division. I'd say she's definitely a top 10 girl in Shore/Recess.

Does EC have any girls that would be top 10 in shore?

EC has Nicole who plays for Sloppy in the Recess Division. Definitely a top 10 girl.

She gets run over too much.

[VTDelgado]

She is tough. People who play the bases know they are subject to getting hit/run over. All of those hits were from inexperienced baserunners that couldn't gauge their speed and should have slid into base in order to slow down. Tennessee Softball taught her right and she didn't shy away from making the play. She took out a 200+ pound guy on the Core.

[Bacchus]

brent...basically just show up and play. if you feel better saying that EC is on the same level as sloppy...awesome. i will take that as a compliment. i am irritated b/c we (sloppy) were under estimated all season. WE did something that only one other team could do all season and that NOT lose to PA. We lost by 1 run to OLK and to The Core. Dont say sloppy this and sloppy that just show up and prove yourself. We got a lot of bullshit from people for playing in southside as we built the team but obviously we showed up and proved ourselves in recess. With only 2 losses and we placed 5th....wow Please do the same and you wont have to defend your team on the MB

[machinegunkelly]

brent...basically just show up and play. if you feel better saying that EC is on the same level as sloppy...awesome. i will take that as a compliment. i am irritated b/c we (sloppy) were under estimated all season. WE did something that only one other team could do all season and that NOT lose to PA. We lost by 1 run to OLK and to The Core. Dont say sloppy this and sloppy that just show up and prove yourself. We got a lot of bullshit from people for playing in southside as we built the team but obviously we showed up and proved ourselves in recess. With only 2 losses and we placed 5th....wow Please do the same and you wont have to defend your team on the MB

I think if use jareds logic then u guys finished 2nd

[Mr Oneandone]

Damn, this turned from a recap of the tourney into something else. I guess I can jump in since my new team is briefly mentioned (Chris Brown) but the team jumped from WAKA to KLoHR, unless they're pulling a Thunderfeet and fielding teams in seperate leagues.

[hpthokie757]

Kelly, at no point have we ever said we stack up against Panik or Core. I do think those teams would beat us. There is way too much depth on the Panik team that played in recess this season however I do think we could give Core a tough game and make them earn one against us. Comparing skill players I think at pitcher it's close to a wash but advantage going to PA and Core. Charger is a wash and catcher advantage EC vs PA and a wash vs Core. At 1B, advantage PA and Core.

As far as girls go, Molly as stated is probably the best girl in area. Our other 3 starting girls probably mark up with skill level around Kate from Sloppy.

[JohnPWilks]

Damn, this turned from a recap of the tourney into something else. I guess I can jump in since my new team is briefly mentioned (Chris Brown) but the team jumped from WAKA to KLoHR, unless they're pulling a Thunderfeet and fielding teams in seperate leagues.

Haha no they jumped ship. I found out through facebook that they were playing for KLoHR and I knew at the end of last season that there was that possibility. I don't see a return unless to WAKA unless they want to play in Southside.

[machinegunkelly]

Kelly, at no point have we ever said we stack up against Panik or Core. I do think those teams would beat us. There is way too much depth on the Panik team that played in recess this season however I do think we could give Core a tough game and make them earn one against us. Comparing skill players I think at pitcher it's close to a wash but advantage going to PA and Core. Charger is a wash and catcher advantage EC vs PA and a wash vs Core. At 1B, advantage PA and Core.

As far as girls go, Molly as stated is probably the best girl in area. Our other 3 starting girls probably mark up with skill level around Kate from Sloppy.

If u can gice the core a game why can't u give panick a game....so basically you r saying your cacher is just as good if not better than PA catcher?

[Paniky 69er]

Kelly, at no point have we ever said we stack up against Panik or Core. I do think those teams would beat us. There is way too much depth on the Panik team that played in recess this season however I do think we could give Core a tough game and make them earn one against us. Comparing skill players I think at pitcher it's close to a wash but advantage going to PA and Core. Charger is a wash and catcher advantage EC vs PA and a wash vs Core. At 1B, advantage PA and Core.

As far as girls go, Molly as stated is probably the best girl in area. Our other 3 starting girls probably mark up with skill level around Kate from Sloppy.

So EC has one of the top 2 Chargers and Catchers in all of Recess?

[Mr Oneandone]

Damn, this turned from a recap of the tourney into something else. I guess I can jump in since my new team is briefly mentioned (Chris Brown) but the team jumped from WAKA to KLoHR, unless they're pulling a Thunderfeet and fielding teams in seperate leagues.

Haha no they jumped ship. I found out through facebook that they were playing for KLoHR and I knew at the end of last season that there was that possibility. I don't see a return unless to WAKA unless they want to play in Southside.

Well, they lost you but gained my old ass , I think if we can adjust to the crazy rules (no guys bunting, two foul and out) we may contend, Ramrod looks to be the most solid team in KLoHR from what I've seen.

[xxxjboyxxx]

Kelly, at no point have we ever said we stack up against Panik or Core. I do think those teams would beat us. There is way too much depth on the Panik team that played in recess this season however I do think we could give Core a tough game and make them earn one against us. Comparing skill players I think at pitcher it's close to a wash but advantage going to PA and Core. Charger is a wash and catcher advantage EC vs PA and a wash vs Core. At 1B, advantage PA and Core.

As far as girls go, Molly as stated is probably the best girl in area. Our other 3 starting girls probably mark up with skill level around Kate from Sloppy.

We get it...you guys have the some of the best players in Hampton Roads at Pitcher, Cather, Charger, and 1st Base.

[Paniky 69er]

Kelly, at no point have we ever said we stack up against Panik or Core. I do think those teams would beat us. There is way too much depth on the Panik team that played in recess this season however I do think we could give Core a tough game and make them earn one against us. Comparing skill players I think at pitcher it's close to a wash but advantage going to PA and Core. Charger is a wash and catcher advantage EC vs PA and a wash vs Core. At 1B, advantage PA and Core.

As far as girls go, Molly as stated is probably the best girl in area. Our other 3 starting girls probably mark up with skill level around Kate from Sloppy.

If u can gice the core a game why can't u give panick a game....so basically you r saying your cacher is just as good if not better than PA catcher?

No, he's saying that their catcher is better than PA's catcher and just as good as The Core's catcher. Their charger is also just as good as Larry.

[antw00]

They play in Hampton. It's like 15-20 minutes away.

This statement shows your ignorance. You obviously don't drive through the tunnel. 20 minutes would get you 2 miles at best. You must be flying a helicopter. Like I said, we're trying to get the VIP's to play on the Norfolk side, but alot people just don't care that much. But to say the entire Peninsula division sucks is ignorant.

[hpthokie757]

Panik has a huge amount of depth in comparison. Their "bench" is loaded with just as lethal weapons as their starters and i think that's what seperates PA and Core.

At catcher, yes, i think it's a fair statement but it's all a matter of opinion. It's just like someone saying they like Tim Lincecum over Zack Greinke. It could be a homer pick their but Randy is definitely just as good.