Vegas Thoughts

by **Trey it Up** » October 13th, 2011, 12:47 pm

Also Typod, you probably shouldn't join in any discussion about competent teams until your team learns basic base running techniques....like touching all of the bases.

by **-APBT-** » October 13th, 2011, 12:48 pm

There are reasons to understand why EC teams only put an available's team out there in Cali.

FC Champs
1998 - The Big Kids (DC)
1999 - After School Specials (DC)
2000 - Thick Femurs (DC)
2001 - Pity Da Fool (VA)
2002 - Milk Money Millionaire's (DC)
2003 - My Left Foot (DC)
2004 - Kick Asphalt's (VA)
2005 - Kick Asphalt's (VA)
2006 - Kick Asphalt's (VA)
2007 - Drinker's with a Kicking Problem (FL)
2008 - Frosty Balls (VA)
2009 - The Other's (DC)
2010 - Panik Attack (VA)
2011 - OSC (DC)

CC Champs -
MEATBALLS (FL)

Still wondering why East Coast teams think the best kickball is being played in the EC tourney's? These are facts, not my opinions. Want everyone to come out west to play against you all? Then it's simple, win a tourney and watch that change quick.

by **Typod** » October 13th, 2011, 12:49 pm

Zen Trey wrote:I don't remember what team you played for, but I'm pretty sure you got your ass kicked, too.

Well we lost to the same opponent. There certainly wasn't any ass kicking by any means.

by **Typod** » October 13th, 2011, 12:54 pm

-APBT- wrote:There are reasons to understand why EC teams only put an available's team out there in Cali.

FC Champs
1998 - The Big Kids (DC)
1999 - After School Specials (DC)
2000 - Thick Femurs (DC)
2001 - Pity Da Fool (VA)
2002 - Milk Money Millionaire's (DC)
2003 - My Left Foot (DC)
2004 - Kick Asphalt's (VA)
2005 - Kick Asphalt's (VA)
2006 - Kick Asphalt's (VA)
2007 - Drinker's with a Kicking Problem (FL)
2008 - Frosty Balls (VA)
2009 - The Other's (DC)
2010 - Panik Attack (VA)
2011 - OSC (DC)

CC Champs -
MEATBALLS (FL)

Still wondering why East Coast teams think the best kickball is being played in the EC tourney's? These are facts, not my opinions. Want everyone to come out west to play against you all? Then it's simple, win a tourney and watch that change quick.

What does this have to do with anything? Did anyone say EC wasn't the dominate region?

by **Typod** » October 13th, 2011, 12:59 pm

Zen Trey wrote:Also Typod, you probably shouldn't join in any discussion about competent teams until your team learns basic base running techniques....like touching all of the bases.

Im trying, it's just so hard, especially that third one, just something about it.

by **Return of Ctiger** » October 13th, 2011, 1:01 pm

Zen Trey wrote:Also Typod, you probably shouldn't join in any discussion about competent teams until your team learns basic base running techniques....like touching all of the bases.

Typod, you should ask Trey for help with that.. and while you're at it ask him to teach you his patented back heel tap bunt to induce encroachment only to have it backfire and cost your team the final four game in DC move.... he's really good at it...

by **-APBT-** » October 13th, 2011, 1:10 pm

Typod wrote:
What does this have to do with anything? Did anyone say EC wasn't the dominate region?

It has a lot to do with his complaints of only an available's team coming out to LA and why EC teams wouldn't want to play in more than one weekend in Vegas.

The best reside in the East + the majority of the tournaments that host the best are in the east

= not many coming out west to play.

by **Typod** » October 13th, 2011, 1:12 pm

Return of Ctiger wrote:
Zen Trey wrote:Also Typod, you probably shouldn't join in any discussion about competent teams until your team learns basic base running techniques....like touching all of the bases.

Typod, you should ask Trey for help with that.. and while you're at it ask him to teach you his patented back heel tap bunt to induce encroachment only to have it backfire and cost your team the final four game in DC move.... he's really good at it...

Tiger brought his A game today.

by **Trey it Up** » October 13th, 2011, 1:15 pm

Tiger, it only takes me one play to make my team lose in the semis. It took you nearly a half dozen blown plays to throw the game for your team. You even suck at sucking.

by **The Scorekeeper** » October 13th, 2011, 1:15 pm

it's also important to point out that all circuit events, with the exception of the circuit cup, are open tournaments. you only get standings points toward your entrance in the circuit cup if you are a registered circuit team attending that tournament, but you are not required at any point to be a circuit team to attend a circuit tournament. if you were, we would have significantly fewer teams attending tournaments. if a player participates in a tournament as a member of an open team, it has no bearing on their performance as a member of a registered circuit team, and vice versa. the circuit team does not benefit from having a player go attend another tournament without them, and it doesn't really hurt any registered circuit teams to play against open teams.

i guess i just don't see where the problem is.

by **Typod** » October 13th, 2011, 1:15 pm

-APBT- wrote:
Typod wrote:It has a lot to do with his complaints of only an available's team coming out to LA and why EC teams wouldn't want to play in more than one weekend in Vegas.

The best reside in the East + the majority of the tournaments that host the best are in the east

= not many coming out west to play.

Well this March when BoTW is happening, Im going to go out on a limb and assume the weather here would make for a nice escape from DC or NYC.

Maybe that would entice you guys to come out?

by **-APBT-** » October 13th, 2011, 1:21 pm

Typod wrote:
-APBT- wrote:
Typod wrote:It has a lot to do with his complaints of only an available's team coming out to LA and why EC teams wouldn't want to play in more than one weekend in Vegas.

The best reside in the East + the majority of the tournaments that host the best are in the east

= not many coming out west to play.

Well this March when BoTW is happening, Im going to go out on a limb and assume the weather here would make for a nice escape from DC or NYC.

Maybe that would entice you guys to come out?

I love it out there and my in-laws live in LA, so it would very easy to get me out there. Now the rest of the teams may take some enticing but if you set it up when it's cold back East, I could see it getting more interests. I will also say that when the teams do come, they will stay for longer than most EC tourney's as well, so throw in a bar crawl and and some beer pong and you may be headed in the right direction! You will also need the help of Admin to wrap a TON of publicity around it and he also knows ways to encourage these cats to come out there!

by **dp3** » October 13th, 2011, 1:25 pm

For EC players, a WC tournament can double as a vacation. Who wouldn't want to come bask in the glory of the awesomeness that is Southern California? Aren't you watching Real World San Diego?? :dance:

by **Trey it Up** » October 13th, 2011, 1:29 pm

I agree, Aaron. Tournaments in warm weather cities need to be held in cold weather months--and vice versa. I think it'd be cool to have 10 tournaments in 10 different cities starting in January and ending in October or early November.

January - South Florida
February - New Mexico
March - Atlanta
April - LA
May - Virginia Beach
June - NYC
July - Chicago???
August - Boston???
September - Austin
October - Circuit Cup Championship (TBD)

by **Hollywood B** » October 13th, 2011, 1:33 pm

Typod wrote:
-APBT- wrote:
Typod wrote:It has a lot to do with his complaints of only an available's team coming out to LA and why EC teams wouldn't want to play in more than one weekend in Vegas.

The best reside in the East + the majority of the tournaments that host the best are in the east

= not many coming out west to play.

Well this March when BoTW is happening, Im going to go out on a limb and assume the weather here would make for a nice escape from DC or NYC.

Maybe that would entice you guys to come out?

I'm gonna try and get the Hammers to come out for BotW, but we'll have to see the date and how it works in with the rest of the schedule. It kind of sucks its in Long Beach though. Not really a desirable destination.

by **Typod** » October 13th, 2011, 1:36 pm

Totally agree about Long Beach.

However the organizer has the field permit there and he is awesome. He was the tall ref that everyone seemed to love Sunday. I think with some bi-coastal interest, steven will be able to expand to a better locale someplace that isnt Long Beach. I bet we could get fields at LMU or one of the Cal State Schools if we had enough attendance.

by **Hollywood B** » October 13th, 2011, 1:40 pm

Typod wrote:Totally agree about Long Beach.

However the organizer has the field permit there and he is awesome. He was the tall ref that everyone seemed to love Sunday. I think with some bi-coastal interest, steven will be able to expand to a better locale someplace that isnt Long Beach. I bet we could get fields at LMU or one of the Cal State Schools if we had enough attendance.

Yea LMU would be perfect. SMCC would be good too. There is certainly no shortage of parks, but obviously its a matter of getting the permits. Ideally this tourney (or another) should be in SD.

by **Zak** » October 13th, 2011, 1:42 pm

The Scorekeeper wrote:it's also important to point out that all circuit events, with the exception of the circuit cup, are open tournaments. you only get standings points toward your entrance in the circuit cup if you are a registered circuit team attending that tournament, but you are not required at any point to be a circuit team to attend a circuit tournament. if you were, we would have significantly fewer teams attending tournaments. if a player participates in a tournament as a member of an open team, it has no bearing on their performance as a member of a registered circuit team, and vice versa. the circuit team does not benefit from having a player go attend another tournament without them, and it doesn't really hurt any registered circuit teams to play against open teams.i guess i just don't see where the problem is.

Did Sofa King get 1st place Circuit points for BotW?

by **-APBT-** » October 13th, 2011, 1:49 pm

Zen Trey wrote:I agree, Aaron. Tournaments in warm weather cities need to be held in cold weather months--and vice versa. I think it'd be cool to have 10 tournaments in 10 different cities starting in January and ending in October or early November.

January - South Florida
February - New Mexico
March - Atlanta
April - LA
May - Virginia Beach
June - NYC
July - Chicago???
August - Boston???
September - Austin
October - Circuit Cup Championship (TBD)

Well you left off DC and I don't see that one going away with all the teams that do come to that one. I agree though, this would be a great way to do it, but I would like to see New Orleans get in there to. I mean seriously, can you imagine kickballer's being cut loose in The BIG EASY?

Possibly push that Austin tourney down to the coast to somewhere like St Padres Island where they allow parties on the beach....Now we're talking!

by **Typod** » October 13th, 2011, 1:52 pm

Hollywood B wrote:Ideally this tourney (or another) should be in SD.

There used to be one in SD on the nicest fields ever. Right on the water about 1.5 times the size of the UNLV field.

Nice ocean breeze and soft grass. Bathrooms, everything.

by **Hollywood B** » October 13th, 2011, 1:53 pm

Typod wrote:
Hollywood B wrote:Ideally this tourney (or another) should be in SD.

There used to be one in SD on the nicest fields ever. Right on the water about 1.5 times the size of the UNLV field.

Nice ocean breeze and soft grass. Bathrooms, everything.

Was that the Vavi tourney where sliding is illegal?

by **dp3** » October 13th, 2011, 1:55 pm

Typod wrote:
Hollywood B wrote:Ideally this tourney (or another) should be in SD.

There used to be one in SD on the nicest fields ever. Right on the water about 1.5 times the size of the UNLV field.

Nice ocean breeze and soft grass. Bathrooms, everything.

The only problem on this field is lights. Do your tournaments usually go into the night? That field has no lights.

by **dp3** » October 13th, 2011, 1:57 pm

Hollywood B wrote:Was that the Vavi tourney where sliding is illegal?

Sliding is very, very dangerous. Why would I slide to stop into the base when I have a 2B girl standing right there to catch me as I barrel in full speed?

...just lookin out for the safety and well-being of our players.

by **kim dude** » October 13th, 2011, 1:59 pm

Zen Trey wrote:I agree, Aaron. Tournaments in warm weather cities need to be held in cold weather months--and vice versa. I think it'd be cool to have 10 tournaments in 10 different cities starting in January and ending in October or early November.

January - South Florida
February - New Mexico
March - Atlanta
April - LA
May - Virginia Beach
June - NYC
July - Chicago???
August - Boston???
September - Austin
October - Circuit Cup Championship (TBD)

I'm just going to assume you've never been to New Mexico by this statement.

by **Typod** » October 13th, 2011, 2:01 pm

Hollywood B wrote:
Typod wrote:
Hollywood B wrote:Ideally this tourney (or another) should be in SD.

There used to be one in SD on the nicest fields ever. Right on the water about 1.5 times the size of the UNLV field.

Nice ocean breeze and soft grass. Bathrooms, everything.

Was that the Vavi tourney where sliding is illegal?

Yes. Odd rules. Fantastic field.

by **Trey it Up** » October 13th, 2011, 2:03 pm

Aaron, I had DC in there and then rearranged some Summer dates and forgot to put it back in.

Kim, I've never been to New Mexico. I assume you're referring to the temperature. I know it's in the desert so I assumed even in the Winter it's tolerable for a kickball tournament (50-60* maybe?).

by **kim dude** » October 13th, 2011, 2:06 pm

Zen Trey wrote:Aaron, I had DC in there and then rearranged some Summer dates and forgot to put it back in.

Kim, I've never been to New Mexico. I assume you're referring to the temperature. I know it's in the desert so I assumed even in the Winter it's tolerable for a kickball tournament (50-60* maybe?).

It's actually a high plains desert. ABQ is higher average elevation than Denver and sits at the base of a 10k+ ft mountain. It's fucking cold in February.

by **Typod** » October 13th, 2011, 2:10 pm

Its shockingly hi-altitude. It snowed while I was there for the tourney whatever month that was.

by **JellyDogg** » October 13th, 2011, 2:12 pm

kim dude wrote:It's actually a high plains desert. ABQ is higher average elevation than Denver and sits at the base of a 10k+ ft mountain. It's fucking cold in February.

But it's a dry cold...

by **iShark** » October 13th, 2011, 2:17 pm

Typod wrote:
-APBT- wrote:There are reasons to understand why EC teams only put an available's team out there in Cali.

FC Champs
1998 - The Big Kids (DC)
1999 - After School Specials (DC)
2000 - Thick Femurs (DC)
2001 - Pity Da Fool (VA)
2002 - Milk Money Millionaire's (DC)
2003 - My Left Foot (DC)
2004 - Kick Asphalt's (VA)
2005 - Kick Asphalt's (VA)
2006 - Kick Asphalt's (VA)
2007 - Drinker's with a Kicking Problem (FL)
2008 - Frosty Balls (VA)
2009 - The Other's (DC)
2010 - Panik Attack (VA)
2011 - OSC (DC)

CC Champs -
MEATBALLS (FL)

Still wondering why East Coast teams think the best kickball is being played in the EC tourney's? These are facts, not my opinions. Want everyone to come out west to play against you all? Then it's simple, win a tourney and watch that change quick.

What does this have to do with anything? Did anyone say EC wasn't the dominate region?

I would think it's more enticing for legit roster EC team to come west to a guaranteed win+points+money (backed by your historical evidence) than a WC team coming east to a guaranteed 2nd place or worse (according to history). No?

by **Trey it Up** » October 13th, 2011, 2:22 pm

True. The EC sent a mediocre team to the LA tournament and they won it all. Now all the WC teams are pissed about it.

by **-APBT-** » October 13th, 2011, 2:24 pm

iShark wrote:I would think it's more enticing for legit roster EC team to come west to a guaranteed win+points+money (backed by your historical evidence) than a WC team coming east to a guaranteed 2nd place or worse (according to history). No?

It's a decent logic, but I guess the more opportunities lie in the East and that's better than the costs? I think everyone wants to beat the PA and MB's of the world and are looking for that legit shot to be "The Best" team out there.

by **Typod** » October 13th, 2011, 2:25 pm

Zen Trey wrote:True. The EC sent a mediocre team to the LA tournament and they won it all. Now all the WC teams are pissed about it.

One guy said one thing. Eeryone else said they were glad they came. By your logic everything out of your mouth represents "all the EC teams" I guess.

by **Trey it Up** » October 13th, 2011, 2:26 pm

Typod wrote:
Zen Trey wrote:True. The EC sent a mediocre team to the LA tournament and they won it all. Now all the WC teams are pissed about it.

One guy said one thing. Eeryone else said they were glad they came. By your logic everything out of your mouth represents "all the EC teams" I guess.

Pretty close. Most people agree with my opinions.

by **Jared It Up!** » October 13th, 2011, 2:27 pm

the points mean absolutely nothing. I am hoping the cash prize for the top 3 teams in points before the CC is taken away this year. The points should only be used for seeding and put the rest of the money towards the pool at the CC.

by **Typod** » October 13th, 2011, 2:28 pm

Zen Trey wrote:
Typod wrote:
Zen Trey wrote:True. The EC sent a mediocre team to the LA tournament and they won it all. Now all the WC teams are pissed about it.

One guy said one thing. Eeryone else said they were glad they came. By your logic everything out of your mouth represents "all the EC teams" I guess.

Pretty close. Most people agree with my opinions.

well played

by **Trey it Up** » October 13th, 2011, 2:31 pm

Jared It Up! wrote:the points mean absolutely nothing. I am hoping the cash prize for the top 3 teams in points before the CC is taken away this year. The points should only be used for seeding and put the rest of the money towards the pool at the CC.

I disagree. Having the points chase does mean something. It encourages teams to travel. Had the points not meant anything, PA probably wouldn't have gone to as many tournaments. I'd bet the same can be said for Fully Loaded.

by **kim dude** » October 13th, 2011, 2:32 pm

Jared It Up! wrote:the points mean absolutely nothing. I am hoping the cash prize for the top 3 teams in points before the CC is taken away this year. The points should only be used for seeding and put the rest of the money towards the pool party at the CC.

fixed

by **Jared It Up!** » October 13th, 2011, 2:33 pm

Zen Trey wrote:
Jared It Up! wrote:the points mean absolutely nothing. I am hoping the cash prize for the top 3 teams in points before the CC is taken away this year. The points should only be used for seeding and put the rest of the money towards the pool at the CC.

I disagree. Having the points chase does mean something. It encourages teams to travel. Had the points not meant anything, PA probably wouldn't have gone to as many tournaments. I'd bet the same can be said for Fully Loaded.

I can see why they have it, but it doesn't mean that the winner if the point championship was the best team up until the CC. If Sofa won LA, they would have had two tournament wins without ever playing the MB or Panik. Throw in another easy tournament (I am pretty sure new tournaments will be added this year) and they are the #1 team.

by **MEATBALLKEVIN** » October 13th, 2011, 3:11 pm

kim dude wrote:
Zen Trey wrote:I agree, Aaron. Tournaments in warm weather cities need to be held in cold weather months--and vice versa. I think it'd be cool to have 10 tournaments in 10 different cities starting in January and ending in October or early November.

January - South Florida
February - New Mexico
March - Atlanta
April - LA
May - Virginia Beach
June - NYC
July - Chicago???
August - Boston???
September - Austin
October - Circuit Cup Championship (TBD)

I'm just going to assume you've never been to New Mexico by this statement.

I think Austin has been announced for April already.

I can speak for my team and say travelling between nov- april is very tough seeing most of us are in a business that has "the season" in those months. An then we hardly work from late spring to mid fall.

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