First Circuit Tournament Title for someone

[DontJudgeG]

Final Four: NYSH, JKID, Fully Loaded, SOFA (that would be a great final four if it happened).

NYSH over Fully Loaded in the finals.

[Justin Andrew Anderson]

Final Four: NYSH, JKID, Fully Loaded, SOFA (that would be a great final four if it happened).

NYSH over Fully Loaded in the finals.

Agree exactly.

[The Fox]

After reading this whole thread I decided to book my flight to Austin after saying no to the team multiple times. This tourney was way too fun last year and I know the squad will be better this year. So at least WR will have one of their starting pitchers....

[JimmyB]

For cobra kai, i'd say their success 100% depends on 2 things... a) if their leadoff kicker pat can make it. He's very quick and lays down great bunts. b) their starting 3b is now married with a baby so he won't be traveling anymore, and i'm not sure who their new 3b is.

Overall though I think they are significantly better than the team you saw at SFKO last year, and FC the year before that.

[btaylor]

I've been trying to figure this out since sfko, but I finally have to say it. I don't see the hype in NYSH. Assuming that all their key players were at sfko, which I'm told they were, I just dont see it. They got two hit by woods who isn't a top 5 pitcher in ultra. MMS didn't have to make any tremendous plays (with 1 exception in the first inning) and they never got a runner to third base. MMS twice had a runner on third with one out and never scored them. That game could have easily been 3-0. I watched them play one other game against surrender the booty and wasnt impressed with that game either.

If they were missing important players, someone let me know. Otherwise, someone is gonna have to explain the hype.

[Catch-22]

I've been trying to figure this out since sfko, but I finally have to say it. I don't see the hype in NYSH. Assuming that all their key players were at sfko, which I'm told they were, I just dont see it. They got two hit by woods who isn't a top 5 pitcher in ultra. MMS didn't have to make any tremendous plays (with 1 exception in the first inning) and they never got a runner to third base. MMS twice had a runner on third with one out and never scored them. That game could have easily been 3-0. I watched them play one other game against surrender the booty and wasnt impressed with that game either.

If they were missing important players, someone let me know. Otherwise, someone is gonna have to explain the hype.

How a team plays you in pool play is very different from elims, and it can definitely affect your perception of them going forward. I've only ever played NYSH in elims and both times it's been close, hard fought games. Their track record speaks for itself. They're very good.

[Captain_Relax]

For cobra kai, i'd say their success 100% depends on 2 things... a) if their leadoff kicker pat can make it. He's very quick and lays down great bunts. b) their starting 3b is now married with a baby so he won't be traveling anymore, and i'm not sure who their new 3b is.

Overall though I think they are significantly better than the team you saw at SFKO last year, and FC the year before that.

If their leadoff can't make it and you take what I'd assume is a key piece of their defense (their 3B) out how are they better?

[btaylor]

I've been trying to figure this out since sfko, but I finally have to say it. I don't see the hype in NYSH. Assuming that all their key players were at sfko, which I'm told they were, I just dont see it. They got two hit by woods who isn't a top 5 pitcher in ultra. MMS didn't have to make any tremendous plays (with 1 exception in the first inning) and they never got a runner to third base. MMS twice had a runner on third with one out and never scored them. That game could have easily been 3-0. I watched them play one other game against surrender the booty and wasnt impressed with that game either.

If they were missing important players, someone let me know. Otherwise, someone is gonna have to explain the hype.

How a team plays you in pool play is very different from elims, and it can definitely affect your perception of them going forward. I've only ever played NYSH in elims and both times it's been close, hard fought games. Their track record speaks for itself. They're very good.

I don't think they were kicking to only have 16 at bats in a 15 out game.

[Zak]

I've been trying to figure this out since sfko, but I finally have to say it. I don't see the hype in NYSH. Assuming that all their key players were at sfko, which I'm told they were, I just dont see it. They got two hit by woods who isn't a top 5 pitcher in ultra. MMS didn't have to make any tremendous plays (with 1 exception in the first inning) and they never got a runner to third base. MMS twice had a runner on third with one out and never scored them. That game could have easily been 3-0. I watched them play one other game against surrender the booty and wasnt impressed with that game either.

If they were missing important players, someone let me know. Otherwise, someone is gonna have to explain the hype.

How a team plays you in pool play is very different from elims, and it can definitely affect your perception of them going forward. I've only ever played NYSH in elims and both times it's been close, hard fought games. Their track record speaks for itself. They're very good.

I don't think they were kicking to only have 16 at bats in a 15 out game.

we tired them out with all the running around the bases they did against us

[Return of Ctiger]

For cobra kai, i'd say their success 100% depends on 2 things... a) if their leadoff kicker pat can make it. He's very quick and lays down great bunts. b) their starting 3b is now married with a baby so he won't be traveling anymore, and i'm not sure who their new 3b is.

Overall though I think they are significantly better than the team you saw at SFKO last year, and FC the year before that.

If their leadoff can't make it and you take what I'd assume is a key piece of their defense (their 3B) out how are they better?

He means better then what they were in SFKO a year ago.. They have since combined with another team so they have a larger pool of players to choose from for this tournament. I don't remember this team ever being an easy out and I know they can kick bombs.. it's not every day someone kicks a ball into another field off of Corey holland, and I remember that happening at SFKO a couple times when they played a few years back... If you sleep on them they will beat you

[btaylor]

I've been trying to figure this out since sfko, but I finally have to say it. I don't see the hype in NYSH. Assuming that all their key players were at sfko, which I'm told they were, I just dont see it. They got two hit by woods who isn't a top 5 pitcher in ultra. MMS didn't have to make any tremendous plays (with 1 exception in the first inning) and they never got a runner to third base. MMS twice had a runner on third with one out and never scored them. That game could have easily been 3-0. I watched them play one other game against surrender the booty and wasnt impressed with that game either.

If they were missing important players, someone let me know. Otherwise, someone is gonna have to explain the hype.

How a team plays you in pool play is very different from elims, and it can definitely affect your perception of them going forward. I've only ever played NYSH in elims and both times it's been close, hard fought games. Their track record speaks for itself. They're very good.

I don't think they were kicking to only have 16 at bats in a 15 out game.

we tired them out with all the running around the bases they did against us

Thanks for your commitment to the cause zak

[Captain_Relax]

For cobra kai, i'd say their success 100% depends on 2 things... a) if their leadoff kicker pat can make it. He's very quick and lays down great bunts. b) their starting 3b is now married with a baby so he won't be traveling anymore, and i'm not sure who their new 3b is.

Overall though I think they are significantly better than the team you saw at SFKO last year, and FC the year before that.

If their leadoff can't make it and you take what I'd assume is a key piece of their defense (their 3B) out how are they better?

He means better then what they were in SFKO a year ago.. They have since combined with another team so they have a larger pool of players to choose from for this tournament. I don't remember this team ever being an easy out and I know they can kick bombs.. it's not every day someone kicks a ball into another field off of Corey holland, and I remember that happening at SFKO a couple times when they played a few years back... If you sleep on them they will beat you

I'm pretty sure they made it to the rd of 8 in both the tournaments he referenced, not a bad showing at all. If they are better than that they'd be the favorites.

[Return of Ctiger]

For cobra kai, i'd say their success 100% depends on 2 things... a) if their leadoff kicker pat can make it. He's very quick and lays down great bunts. b) their starting 3b is now married with a baby so he won't be traveling anymore, and i'm not sure who their new 3b is.

Overall though I think they are significantly better than the team you saw at SFKO last year, and FC the year before that.

If their leadoff can't make it and you take what I'd assume is a key piece of their defense (their 3B) out how are they better?

He means better then what they were in SFKO a year ago.. They have since combined with another team so they have a larger pool of players to choose from for this tournament. I don't remember this team ever being an easy out and I know they can kick bombs.. it's not every day someone kicks a ball into another field off of Corey holland, and I remember that happening at SFKO a couple times when they played a few years back... If you sleep on them they will beat you

I'm pretty sure they made it to the rd of 8 in both the tournaments he referenced, not a bad showing at all. If they are better than that they'd be the favorites.

So let me get this straight.. A team makes the elite 8 and loses that round... So now if they are better than they were they are the favorite? So no way they could win that elite 8 game and reach the final four? Or maybe even reach the finals and lose? That wouldn't be better as well? That makes perfect sense.. great job on your analysis like always

[Return of Ctiger]

Also... I don't think most teams are happy losing in the elite 8... If you are, then does that mean you are also happy to only ALMOST get mercy ruled by the meatballs?

[Horses and Genitals]

Assuming all tournaments are exactly the same, Tiger's got a point.

[Trey it Up]

I've been trying to figure this out since sfko, but I finally have to say it. I don't see the hype in NYSH. Assuming that all their key players were at sfko, which I'm told they were, I just dont see it. They got two hit by woods who isn't a top 5 pitcher in ultra. MMS didn't have to make any tremendous plays (with 1 exception in the first inning) and they never got a runner to third base. MMS twice had a runner on third with one out and never scored them. That game could have easily been 3-0. I watched them play one other game against surrender the booty and wasnt impressed with that game either.

If they were missing important players, someone let me know. Otherwise, someone is gonna have to explain the hype.

NYSH is the type of team that can beat anyone when they're hot or lose to just about anyone when they're cold. They're one of those emotional teams that feeds off of each other's performance. Sometimes they'll come out of the gates on fire and play at a very high level for the rest of the game. Other times they start off slow and struggle to put a run up on even average defenses. They have all the pieces to be great if they were more consistent, but I think you'll see quite a few head-scratchers for the remainder of their existence.

It's fun to compare them to their polar opposite, and hometown rival (my new team LIU). LIU is very consistent and almost always wins against the teams they should beat and loses against the teams they should lose to. NYSH has the ability to lose bad against LIU (see: SFKO '11) or beat the crap out of LIU if they're hot. That's the greatest part about the rivalry.

[MEATBALLKEVIN]

I think NYSH has better players from top to bottom . I think what trey said is spot on as far as comparing liu/nysh. I think once all the shower hammer players from top to bottom realize how important it is to just put the ball ont he ground to advance base runners they will be more consistent.

[Captain_Relax]

I'm pretty sure they made it to the rd of 8 in both the tournaments he referenced, not a bad showing at all. If they are better than that they'd be the favorites.

So let me get this straight.. A team makes the elite 8 and loses that round... So now if they are better than they were they are the favorite? So no way they could win that elite 8 game and reach the final four? Or maybe even reach the finals and lose? That wouldn't be better as well? That makes perfect sense.. great job on your analysis like always

Oh it's nice to have you back. I was worried about you post SFKO but it appears you are starting to get back to your old ways. I'm not saying I blame you for being severely depressed, but I am glad to see you turn the corner. To my knowledge only two of the teams that are attending LSKO Sofa King (FC '10) and FL (SFKO '11) made it further than they did in either tournament. With that said, I'll concede, if they are better, they should be ONE of the favorites, maybe not THE favorite. It's tough to read sarcasm, but my point in both of my posts was that whoever claimed they're better is probably wrong.

Now for the sake of arguing with you I will attempt to make you look . SFKO is a much tougher tournament than LSKO. An Elite 8 run at SFKO is comparable to a final four or championship game @ LSKO. Just because you're the favorite in one tournament doesn't mean you're the favorite anywhere else. Silly logic, no two tournaments are the same competitionwise.

Oh and congrats on the new squad, hopefully this one sticks, seriously everyone is hoping you can remain on JKID . You're like a bad car crash that we just can't turn away from.

[Captain_Relax]

Assuming all tournaments are exactly the same, Tiger's got a point.

1) please reference him as
2) my point exactly, no two tournaments are the same

[wilson]

NYSH is the type of team that can beat anyone when they're hot or lose to just about anyone when they're cold. They're one of those emotional teams that feeds off of each other's performance. Sometimes they'll come out of the gates on fire and play at a very high level for the rest of the game. Other times they start off slow and struggle to put a run up on even average defenses. They have all the pieces to be great if they were more consistent, but I think you'll see quite a few head-scratchers for the remainder of their existence.

It's fun to compare them to their polar opposite, and hometown rival (my new team LIU). LIU is very consistent and almost always wins against the teams they should beat and loses against the teams they should lose to. NYSH has the ability to lose bad against LIU (see: SFKO '11) or beat the crap out of LIU if they're hot. That's the greatest part about the rivalry.

this is dead on

[Return of Ctiger]

I'm pretty sure they made it to the rd of 8 in both the tournaments he referenced, not a bad showing at all. If they are better than that they'd be the favorites.

So let me get this straight.. A team makes the elite 8 and loses that round... So now if they are better than they were they are the favorite? So no way they could win that elite 8 game and reach the final four? Or maybe even reach the finals and lose? That wouldn't be better as well? That makes perfect sense.. great job on your analysis like always

Oh it's nice to have you back. I was worried about you post SFKO but it appears you are starting to get back to your old ways. I'm not saying I blame you for being severely depressed, but I am glad to see you turn the corner. To my knowledge only two of the teams that are attending LSKO Sofa King (FC '10) and FL (SFKO '11) made it further than they did in either tournament. With that said, I'll concede, if they are better, they should be ONE of the favorites, maybe not THE favorite. It's tough to read sarcasm, but my point in both of my posts was that whoever claimed they're better is probably wrong.

Now for the sake of arguing with you I will attempt to make you look . SFKO is a much tougher tournament than LSKO. An Elite 8 run at SFKO is comparable to a final four or championship game @ LSKO. Just because you're the favorite in one tournament doesn't mean you're the favorite anywhere else. Silly logic, no two tournaments are the same competitionwise.

Oh and congrats on the new squad, hopefully this one sticks, seriously everyone is hoping you can remain on JKID . You're like a bad car crash that we just can't turn away from.

HAHA... I am on JKI to stay... Making the finals of this tournament is definitely better then making the elite 8 at sfko.. I'll give you maybe final four at lsko would be a good comparison, but there are still going to be 6 legit teams at this tournament.. making the finals is a far greater accomplishment then making the elite 8 at SFKO.. one example is OSC.. all they had to do was beat some crap team in the first round of single elims at SFKO to make the elite 8..

As far as you saying we are wrong about Cobra Kai being better maybe we can get this game to happen just like the meatballs game against you at sfko.. That one worked out real well for you.. before you make comments to me about backing up my mouth maybe you should look in the mirror..

[Return of Ctiger]

Assuming all tournaments are exactly the same, Tiger's got a point.

1) please reference him as
2) my point exactly, no two tournaments are the same

Please refer to Relax as since everyone of relevance mops the floor with his team

[btaylor]

NYSH is the type of team that can beat anyone when they're hot or lose to just about anyone when they're cold. They're one of those emotional teams that feeds off of each other's performance. Sometimes they'll come out of the gates on fire and play at a very high level for the rest of the game. Other times they start off slow and struggle to put a run up on even average defenses. They have all the pieces to be great if they were more consistent, but I think you'll see quite a few head-scratchers for the remainder of their existence.

It's fun to compare them to their polar opposite, and hometown rival (my new team LIU). LIU is very consistent and almost always wins against the teams they should beat and loses against the teams they should lose to. NYSH has the ability to lose bad against LIU (see: SFKO '11) or beat the crap out of LIU if they're hot. That's the greatest part about the rivalry.

this is dead on

While that might make for a good rivalry I don't think it makes for a good shot at winning a championship. Consistency is one of the most important aspects to winning one of these tournaments. It's hard to stay "hot" for 8 games. It's easier to play consistently good for 8 games.

[J Hard]

NYSH is pretty bad. Chalk it up as a win every time you play.

[Karl]

NYSH is only as good as its leadoff kicker.

J Hard - who's the leadoff kicker for NYSH?

[Karl]

I think NYSH has better players from top to bottom . I think what trey said is spot on as far as comparing liu/nysh. I think once all the shower hammer players from top to bottom realize how important it is to just put the ball ont he ground to advance base runners they will be more consistent.

one of our better players broke his fucking leg a few weeks ago, so we're all pretty excited about that. (sorry if i gave away some key scouting information oak. i just can't resist MBK's posts.)

[Karl]

also this guy is stuffing his face with pretzels right now ----------------------------------->

tryin to get back to my kickball weight of 250lbs.

[wilson]

NYSH is the type of team that can beat anyone when they're hot or lose to just about anyone when they're cold. They're one of those emotional teams that feeds off of each other's performance. Sometimes they'll come out of the gates on fire and play at a very high level for the rest of the game. Other times they start off slow and struggle to put a run up on even average defenses. They have all the pieces to be great if they were more consistent, but I think you'll see quite a few head-scratchers for the remainder of their existence.

It's fun to compare them to their polar opposite, and hometown rival (my new team LIU). LIU is very consistent and almost always wins against the teams they should beat and loses against the teams they should lose to. NYSH has the ability to lose bad against LIU (see: SFKO '11) or beat the crap out of LIU if they're hot. That's the greatest part about the rivalry.

this is dead on

While that might make for a good rivalry I don't think it makes for a good shot at winning a championship. Consistency is one of the most important aspects to winning one of these tournaments. It's hard to stay "hot" for 8 games. It's easier to play consistently good for 8 games.

well you don't need to stay hot for 8 games, just the last 2-3. you get out of pool play, play a not-great team in the first round and then a solid team you should beat in the next. then you need to get "hot" to win it.

anyway, not saying what's "good" or "bad" that is just how it seems to be.

[Captain_Relax]

Assuming all tournaments are exactly the same, Tiger's got a point.

1) please reference him as
2) my point exactly, no two tournaments are the same

Please refer to Relax as since everyone of relevance mops the floor with his team

Haha there's the we have all come to love... We lost to OSC and MEATBALLS, hardly slouches

[Captain_Relax]

Oh it's nice to have you back. I was worried about you post SFKO but it appears you are starting to get back to your old ways. I'm not saying I blame you for being severely depressed, but I am glad to see you turn the corner. To my knowledge only two of the teams that are attending LSKO Sofa King (FC '10) and FL (SFKO '11) made it further than they did in either tournament. With that said, I'll concede, if they are better, they should be ONE of the favorites, maybe not THE favorite. It's tough to read sarcasm, but my point in both of my posts was that whoever claimed they're better is probably wrong.

Now for the sake of arguing with you I will attempt to make you look . SFKO is a much tougher tournament than LSKO. An Elite 8 run at SFKO is comparable to a final four or championship game @ LSKO. Just because you're the favorite in one tournament doesn't mean you're the favorite anywhere else. Silly logic, no two tournaments are the same competitionwise.

Oh and congrats on the new squad, hopefully this one sticks, seriously everyone is hoping you can remain on JKID . You're like a bad car crash that we just can't turn away from.

HAHA... I am on JKI to stay... Making the finals of this tournament is definitely better then making the elite 8 at sfko.. I'll give you maybe final four at lsko would be a good comparison, but there are still going to be 6 legit teams at this tournament.. making the finals is a far greater accomplishment then making the elite 8 at SFKO.. one example is OSC.. all they had to do was beat some crap team in the first round of single elims at SFKO to make the elite 8..

I am sure you would have and possibly did give us that story about Flying V. The other business about where you need to make it in order to compare to SFKO just proves that it's not the same, so thank you for making my point for me.

As far as you saying we are wrong about Cobra Kai being better maybe we can get this game to happen just like the meatballs game against you at sfko.. That one worked out real well for you.. before you make comments to me about backing up my mouth maybe you should look in the mirror..

I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just saying I personally doubt it, which is just my opinion. It's based on nothing other than I know they were a good team before, they lost their CH, their leadoff may not come, and the team that they combined with couldn't have been as good as they were or we'd know who they combined with. I'd love to play Cobra Kai in Austin, we go to these tournaments because of the competition, I was thrilled we got to play OSC, granted I wish we would have obviously played better but it's still great to play those teams.

Haha I never said we would beat the MEATBALLS, I've given them nothing but respect on here. As I recall you even got upset because I was "blowing" the MEATBALLS. There is nothing shameful about losing to the MEATBALLS, you should know, you did it later in the day (I'm assuming Flying V let you play during elim but I could be wrong). The MEATBALLS beat us, it was closer than the 9-2 game indicates, but they definitely deserved to win and were the better team that game.

[Captain_Relax]

I think NYSH has better players from top to bottom . I think what trey said is spot on as far as comparing liu/nysh. I think once all the shower hammer players from top to bottom realize how important it is to just put the ball ont he ground to advance base runners they will be more consistent.

one of our better players broke his fucking leg a few weeks ago, so we're all pretty excited about that. (sorry if i gave away some key scouting information oak. i just can't resist MBK's posts.)

How?

[FlyingV]

I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just saying I personally doubt it, which is just my opinion. It's based on nothing other than I know they were a good team before, they lost their CH, their leadoff may not come, and the team that they combined with couldn't have been as good as they were or we'd know who they combined with. I'd love to play Cobra Kai in Austin, we go to these tournaments because of the competition, I was thrilled we got to play OSC, granted I wish we would have obviously played better but it's still great to play those teams.

Haha I never said we would beat the MEATBALLS, I've given them nothing but respect on here. As I recall you even got upset because I was "blowing" the MEATBALLS. There is nothing shameful about losing to the MEATBALLS, you should know, you did it later in the day (I'm assuming Flying V let you play during elim but I could be wrong). The MEATBALLS beat us, it was closer than the 9-2 game indicates, but they definitely deserved to win and were the better team that game.

Yes- Outfield.

[Captain_Relax]

I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just saying I personally doubt it, which is just my opinion. It's based on nothing other than I know they were a good team before, they lost their CH, their leadoff may not come, and the team that they combined with couldn't have been as good as they were or we'd know who they combined with. I'd love to play Cobra Kai in Austin, we go to these tournaments because of the competition, I was thrilled we got to play OSC, granted I wish we would have obviously played better but it's still great to play those teams.

Haha I never said we would beat the MEATBALLS, I've given them nothing but respect on here. As I recall you even got upset because I was "blowing" the MEATBALLS. There is nothing shameful about losing to the MEATBALLS, you should know, you did it later in the day (I'm assuming Flying V let you play during elim but I could be wrong). The MEATBALLS beat us, it was closer than the 9-2 game indicates, but they definitely deserved to win and were the better team that game.

Yes- Outfield.

Well then you're a better man than I if his 1 for 11 performance was true

[Return of Ctiger]

you took offense when Kevin said they would smoke you, which they did, and then you went as far as saying "Don't you need to score runs to win" or something along those lines.. to me that's a pussy way of saying "we are going to win" in a way so you can go back on it after you get smoked.. I'm sorry but I've heard of games that are 5-2 or maybe 4-1 or something like that being closer then the score, but when you lose 9-2 you either got smoked, or your team simply isn't good and made errors that a good team would NEVER make. When is the last time the meatballs put up 9 runs on any other team that was in the elite 8 at sfko? Fully Loaded not included since they play them 19 million times in league play and the Fully Loaded league play roster would struggle to make the elite 8.. To give up 9 runs in a game where the meatballs aren't even going all out is a joke and shows how over rated (like I called) your team is... And before you say the meatballs were going all out did they have only 4 girls playing? and were they 4 out of these 5 - Jamie, Audra, Jess, Kristen, Jordan? If not, then that is not them going all out.. I'd bet they probably had 5 girls playing and at least 1 was not one of the girls I just named..

[J Hard]

I think NYSH has better players from top to bottom . I think what trey said is spot on as far as comparing liu/nysh. I think once all the shower hammer players from top to bottom realize how important it is to just put the ball ont he ground to advance base runners they will be more consistent.

one of our better players broke his fucking leg a few weeks ago, so we're all pretty excited about that. (sorry if i gave away some key scouting information oak. i just can't resist MBK's posts.)

How?

Freak accident. Warming up before a scrimmage game against LIU (He was catching, went to field a bunt). The field was awful. He got his cleat stuck in the turf and not really sure what happened but his leg swelled and disfigured immediately.

[J Hard]

NYSH is only as good as its leadoff kicker.

J Hard - who's the leadoff kicker for NYSH?

I don't know. Heard he's a homeless dude with a kickass mohawk.

[Captain_Relax]

:chores-mop: you took offense when Kevin said they would smoke you, which they did, and then you went as far as saying "Don't you need to score runs to win" or something along those lines.. to me that's a joke of the day way of saying "we are going to win" in a way so you can go back on it after you get smoked.. I'm sorry but I've heard of games that are 5-2 or maybe 4-1 or something like that being closer then the score, but when you lose 9-2 you either got smoked, or your team simply isn't good and made errors that a good team would NEVER make. When is the last time the meatballs put up 9 runs on any other team that was in the elite 8 at sfko? Fully Loaded not included since they play them 19 million times in league play and the Fully Loaded league play roster would struggle to make the elite 8.. To give up 9 runs in a game where the meatballs aren't even going all out is a joke and shows how over rated (like I called) your team is... And before you say the meatballs were going all out did they have only 4 girls playing? and were they 4 out of these 5 - Jamie, Audra, Jess, Kristen, Jordan? If not, then that is not them going all out.. I'd bet they probably had 5 girls playing and at least 1 was not one of the girls I just named..

No I said Don't you need to score runs to beat us by 6? I definitely did not see us getting smoked but we didn't play great and should of lost by 3 or 4, when we took our starters out we were losing by 6, and they are the better team, they are better than everyone, especially in their own backyard. Again no shame in losing to them. No idea as far as the girls, that'd be a MEATBALL question. I'd definitely assume that they were going all out, but who knows, Kelly or could probably answer that and the line up question.

[btaylor]

I think NYSH has better players from top to bottom . I think what trey said is spot on as far as comparing liu/nysh. I think once all the shower hammer players from top to bottom realize how important it is to just put the ball ont he ground to advance base runners they will be more consistent.

one of our better players broke his fucking leg a few weeks ago, so we're all pretty excited about that. (sorry if i gave away some key scouting information oak. i just can't resist MBK's posts.)

How?

Freak accident. Warming up before a scrimmage game against LIU (He was catching, went to field a bunt). The field was awful. He got his cleat stuck in the turf and not really sure what happened but his leg swelled and disfigured immediately.

That sucks. That's how our pitcher broke his leg. It was 2 plays after I tore my MCL, so a pretty awesome inning....

[Captain_Relax]

I think NYSH has better players from top to bottom . I think what trey said is spot on as far as comparing liu/nysh. I think once all the shower hammer players from top to bottom realize how important it is to just put the ball ont he ground to advance base runners they will be more consistent.

one of our better players broke his fucking leg a few weeks ago, so we're all pretty excited about that. (sorry if i gave away some key scouting information oak. i just can't resist MBK's posts.)

How?

Freak accident. Warming up before a scrimmage game against LIU (He was catching, went to field a bunt). The field was awful. He got his cleat stuck in the turf and not really sure what happened but his leg swelled and disfigured immediately.

That is awful, definitely sorry to hear it, kickball/rec sports injuries are the worst

[Return of Ctiger]

I would like to change my final four predictions again since Sofa can't even win a JV tournament.. I'll go JKI, NYSH, Cobra Kai, and Flying V