Meatballs vs JKID Jacksonville Open

[Duff]

Didn't see this posted yet and came across it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D_nMZLSCb4

Also, JKID vs (Surrender the) Booty:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkBJhoiBJvE

[dp3]

Blah @ uncut videos. I can only afford 15 minutes of lost productivity at the moment; not 60.

[Kickbot]

Blah @ uncut videos. I can only afford 15 minutes of lost productivity at the moment; not 60.

Agreed. Please edit.

[Typod]

Cali certainly dominates the video production end of kickball

[j22201]

When is the bomb kicked?

[Duff]

When is the bomb kicked?

At exactly 37:00

[JimmyB]

After watching a couple innings of jkid/meatballs i notice that tiger is complaining about tons of stuff to the ref... #captain

[MEATBALLKEVIN]

After watching a couple innings of jkid/meatballs i notice that tiger is complaining about tons of stuff to the ref... #captain

all game

Ill break it down for you all.

Zero intensity from either side when the game started. Looked like they both wanted to be somewhere else.

Not much offense from both teams.

Some solid catches throughout the game by Jki defense

Solo homerun with 2 outs by Dan C in bottom of 4th

MBs lead off w top in 5th and gets nothing going

A lot of non captain complaining to umps that were already terrible. Worst pace of play game ever. With so little hits this game should have took 35 minutes to play.

[kwido03]

I see this game a little different. Outside of the bitching and lack of meatball intensity, JKI couldn't have been more focused IMO. That was a JKI-Meatball game to me and I didn't feel any lack of intensity on our side. Not to give myself props but the pitching was a big reason the game was so boring, on both sides. I felt completely in the zone and threw strikes early and often which hurt me in the South Fl final and has been my biggest focus since. Corey did his thing as always and one play made the difference. Boring kickball can be the proof of good kickball to some extent. The game did move slow but games where the pitching is on and the D is solid often come down to one play, an error or a big hit. We got the big play in this case. I was completely disappointed to get injured and not have the chance to pitch to fully loaded but who knows what would have happened anyways. That's sports. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.

[machinegunkelly]

Tiger is actually pretty smart. He knows he has zero impact on the game cause he is auto out at the plate. With the camera rolling he is trying to trick the audience and make them think he is an important piece.

[MEATBALLKEVIN]

I see this game a little different. Outside of the bitching and lack of meatball intensity, JKI couldn't have been more focused IMO. That was a JKI-Meatball game to me and I didn't feel any lack of intensity on our side. Not to give myself props but the pitching was a big reason the game was so boring, on both sides. I felt completely in the zone and threw strikes early and often which hurt me in the South Fl final and has been my biggest focus since. Corey did his thing as always and one play made the difference. Boring kickball can be the proof of good kickball to some extent. The game did move slow but games where the pitching is on and the D is solid often come down to one play, an error or a big hit. We got the big play in this case. I was completely disappointed to get injured and not have the chance to pitch to fully loaded but who knows what would have happened anyways. That's sports. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.

I still milked 8 pitches out of you my first AB. Didnt want our offense to do a quick 1-2-3 . Thats always huge momentum for opposing team so wanted to slow it down a bit. That was the first time ever i tried to kick against you. was tough.

I also think if we knew how the brackets would have fell a bit earlier we both would have been more prepared and may have produced a little more offense. you never know. I just felt like we waited around for them to figure out that 2-2 record mess and then when they made a decision we were playing 2 minutes later.

Sucks you got hurt cause i always want the team that beats us to go on to win. Maybe you wouldnt have but you never know. Im happy for FL cause they are a ftlaud team and been working at it for years. The hard work and sticking with it paid off. I guarantee they prepar more than anyone else before events and last weekend it showed.

[Duh]

I have video from this game as well and the angle I have makes it look like Dan should've been out two pitches before the home run for a double kick with the second touch being in fair territory. Its hard to tell in this footage. Either way we didn't deserve to win...

[MEATBALLKEVIN]

I have video from this game as well and the angle I have makes it look like Dan should've been out two pitches before the home run for a double kick with the second touch being in fair territory. Its hard to tell in this footage. Either way we didn't deserve to win...

For sure

[NoShoes]

Blah @ uncut videos. I can only afford 15 minutes of lost productivity at the moment; not 60.

Agreed. Please edit.

I'm going to be honest, here. I think uncut videos tell the story a little better, and I'd rather have an uncut video than no video at all.

I see this game a little different. Outside of the bitching and lack of meatball intensity, JKI couldn't have been more focused IMO. That was a JKI-Meatball game to me and I didn't feel any lack of intensity on our side. Not to give myself props but the pitching was a big reason the game was so boring, on both sides. I felt completely in the zone and threw strikes early and often which hurt me in the South Fl final and has been my biggest focus since. Corey did his thing as always and one play made the difference. Boring kickball can be the proof of good kickball to some extent. The game did move slow but games where the pitching is on and the D is solid often come down to one play, an error or a big hit. We got the big play in this case. I was completely disappointed to get injured and not have the chance to pitch to fully loaded but who knows what would have happened anyways. That's sports. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.

Great pitching takes even the best offense out of the game.

I enjoyed the vid. Thanks to whomever uploaded it.

I have about 10 minutes of the Foot Snipers vs Meatballs game in raw form. I'll have it uploaded by this evening.

I'll play with video editing towards the end of next week.

[Bellman]

I have video from this game as well and the angle I have makes it look like Dan should've been out two pitches before the home run for a double kick with the second touch being in fair territory. Its hard to tell in this footage. Either way we didn't deserve to win...

In this footage, this happens at 36:12. You can clearly see his plant foot is still in the box at second contact, so it is just a foul ball. Since you are allowed to kick it in fair territory as long as your plant is in the box, a second contact of the same nature cannot constitute a different type of contact. The kicker is not established in fair territory until they touch the ground in fair territory and are not still grounded in the kicking box.

[Return of Ctiger]

I can't be the only one thinking this... with the addition of Hazelcorn I woulda thought the best lineup was mj, dave, hazelcorn at the top with kevin on the bench where he belongs

[Trey it Up]

Kevin is definitely a better bunter than Hazelcorn. The real question was why was Hazelcorn catching when DP is clearly the better Catcher with the new encroachment rules.

[Return of Ctiger]

Kevin is definitely a better bunter than Hazelcorn. The real question was why was Hazelcorn catching when DP is clearly the better Catcher with the new encroachment rules.

This is laughable... There are very few people in all of kickball that are better bunters then Hazelcorn.. you're a joke

[Trey it Up]

I can't remember Hazelcorn getting on against any team I've ever played on. But I guess everyone is one of the best bunters in kickball to a 1 for 11 guy.

[machinegunkelly]

Kevin got out twice all day. We prob should have led off w him.

[machinegunkelly]

Tiger u wish u were as good as meatballkev. There arent many people in all of Kickball who bunt better than him

[Return of Ctiger]

Tiger u wish u were as good as meatballkev. There arent many people in all of Kickball who bunt better than him

That's your way of saying --- he really shouldn't be on the field, but we bat him third and pray that our top two get on and he just has to sac bunt

[machinegunkelly]

Tiger u wish u were as good as meatballkev. There arent many people in all of Kickball who bunt better than him

That's your way of saying --- he really shouldn't be on the field, but we bat him third and pray that our top two get on and he just has to sac bunt

Tiger is this your way to try to compare yourself to hazelcorn ? U kick 3rd for JKI so u think hazel should kick 3rd for us. Both our top 2 got out vs u and Kev got on w a bunt. Please try to make sense on here when u post. Look at your stats (1-11 and 0-2 vs us) against Kevs ( 9-11 and 1-2) u should b on the bench. Wow u can catch a big Orange ball. What an athlete u r.

[Dematas]

Kevin got out twice all day. We prob should have led off w him.

Kev is always getting out on video, I guess that is the only time he ever gets out.

[Dematas]

Tiger u wish u were as good as meatballkev. There arent many people in all of Kickball who bunt better than him

That's your way of saying --- he really shouldn't be on the field, but we bat him third and pray that our top two get on and he just has to sac bunt

Tiger is this your way to try to compare yourself to hazelcorn ? U kick 3rd for JKI so u think hazel should kick 3rd for us. Both our top 2 got out vs u and Kev got on w a bunt. Please try to make sense on here when u post. Look at your stats (1-11 and 0-2 vs us) against Kevs ( 9-11 and 1-2) u should b on the bench. Wow u can catch a big Orange ball. What an athlete u r.

If CTiger isn't any good, why does he kick 3rd in the lineup?

[Trey it Up]

Look at Jkid's declining offensive stats since Tigger joined. It's no surprise they've been one of the worst offensive teams in kickball in that time. Just because he kicks third doesn't mean he SHOULD kick third. They'd probably be better off with just about anyone else in that position.

[Dematas]

Didn't see this posted yet and came across it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D_nMZLSCb4

Also, JKID vs (Surrender the) Booty:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkBJhoiBJvE

In the 1st inning, MJ not comfortable bunting with two fouls? DP fouls out and then Kev not comfortable bunting with two fouls either?

[Trey it Up]

JKID (pre-Tiger) at SFKO - 43 runs scored

JKID (post-Tiger) at LSKO and JKO combined - 32 runs scored

[machinegunkelly]

Didn't see this posted yet and came across it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D_nMZLSCb4

Also, JKID vs (Surrender the) Booty:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkBJhoiBJvE

In the 1st inning, MJ not comfortable bunting with two fouls? DP fouls out and then Kev not comfortable bunting with two fouls either?

kev was kicking a double or nothing....

[machinegunkelly]

JKID (pre-Tiger) at SFKO - 43 runs scored

JKID (post-Tiger) at LSKO and JKO combined - 32 runs scored

also pretty interesting that Fully Loaded and Flying V have both improved since he was kicked off there teams

[Dematas]

Didn't see this posted yet and came across it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D_nMZLSCb4

Also, JKID vs (Surrender the) Booty:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkBJhoiBJvE

In the 1st inning, MJ not comfortable bunting with two fouls? DP fouls out and then Kev not comfortable bunting with two fouls either?

kev was kicking a double or nothing....

And MJ ?

[Duff]

I'm curious how often teams truly re-avaluate their lineups, especially based off anything other than feel. I would think the teams that have had a set lineup for years, in some cases, would have trouble moving people around without ruffling feathers.

Saying that, did no one on JKID question tiger at 3? I'm not even speaking of his talent level and moreso the fact that he was new and pushing current members back.

[MEATBALLKEVIN]

Kevin is definitely a better bunter than Hazelcorn. The real question was why was Hazelcorn catching when DP is clearly the better Catcher with the new encroachment rules.

This is laughable... There are very few people in all of kickball that are better bunters then Hazelcorn.. you're a joke

I can name about 30 people to just show how little you know about anything.

Tiger if you really believe that then u r such a joke. Hazle himself will even admit he is not comfortable with bunting but he will be once we teach him .


We needed Dp in the OF and he was sick/tired for catcher

[MEATBALLKEVIN]

Look at Jkid's declining offensive stats since Tigger joined. It's no surprise they've been one of the worst offensive teams in kickball in that time. Just because he kicks third doesn't mean he SHOULD kick third. They'd probably be better off with just about anyone else in that position.

For THAT day i think it was a smart move by Simon having him 3 just based on who drove up for them.

But i dont feel he is a full time #3 kicker

#3 kickers need to:

when 1 and 2 get on 3 needs to move them over 100% of the time. NEVER foul out or pop up in that situation.

Can bunt to get on if needed

Can kick if line up rolls over

Smart base runner. knows how to bait the defense in to making a throw or not getting ball back to mound. Knows how to get out on purpose in a productive way.

Can handle pressure. If has a bad at bat gets over it and moves on. Does not have days batting under .600 ever with 100% at sacs when needed.



I dont think Tiger fits that description with his past. He is more of a #9 or 10 guy. All rolls are important and if you are in the top 10 ou most likely kick twice anyway so it doesnt matter when you are up because every at bat for a team in tghe game in key. You just need the right players in the right spots that day

[MEATBALLKEVIN]

Kevin got out twice all day. We prob should have led off w him.

Kev is always getting out on video, I guess that is the only time he ever gets out.

Got out once bunting and once kicking that day (in this game).

[MEATBALLKEVIN]

I'm curious how often teams truly re-avaluate their lineups, especially based off anything other than feel. I would think the teams that have had a set lineup for years, in some cases, would have trouble moving people around without ruffling feathers.
Saying that, did no one on JKID question tiger at 3? I'm not even speaking of his talent level and moreso the fact that he was new and pushing current members back.

If a team wants to be really good then there can not be such a thing as a "set lineup". If your leadoff from one tournament bats #8 in the next and has an attitude about it then you cut hom from the team. Its how you need to run teams to be good. No one can ever be set in stone at a position or kicking spot.

[dp3]

Quadruple post, so you know he's serious.

Great description on the 3-spot. Agree completely.

[Dematas]

Look at Jkid's declining offensive stats since Tigger joined. It's no surprise they've been one of the worst offensive teams in kickball in that time. Just because he kicks third doesn't mean he SHOULD kick third. They'd probably be better off with just about anyone else in that position.

For THAT day i think it was a smart move by Simon having him 3 just based on who drove up for them.

But i dont feel he is a full time #3 kicker

#3 kickers need to:

when 1 and 2 get on 3 needs to move them over 100% of the time. NEVER foul out or pop up in that situation.

Can bunt to get on if needed

Can kick if line up rolls over

Smart base runner. knows how to bait the defense in to making a throw or not getting ball back to mound. Knows how to get out on purpose in a productive way.

Can handle pressure. If has a bad at bat gets over it and moves on. Does not have days batting under .600 ever with 100% at sacs when needed.



I dont think Tiger fits that description with his past. He is more of a #9 or 10 guy. All rolls are important and if you are in the top 10 ou most likely kick twice anyway so it doesnt matter when you are up because every at bat for a team in tghe game in key. You just need the right players in the right spots that day

Then you shouldn't be the Meatballs #3 kicker

[Dematas]

Kevin got out twice all day. We prob should have led off w him.

Kev is always getting out on video, I guess that is the only time he ever gets out.

Got out once bunting and once kicking that day (in this game).

Sounds like you well in pool play against the lesser teams and the evidence supports that.

[MEATBALLKEVIN]

Look at Jkid's declining offensive stats since Tigger joined. It's no surprise they've been one of the worst offensive teams in kickball in that time. Just because he kicks third doesn't mean he SHOULD kick third. They'd probably be better off with just about anyone else in that position.

For THAT day i think it was a smart move by Simon having him 3 just based on who drove up for them.

But i dont feel he is a full time #3 kicker

#3 kickers need to:

when 1 and 2 get on 3 needs to move them over 100% of the time. NEVER foul out or pop up in that situation.

Can bunt to get on if needed

Can kick if line up rolls over

Smart base runner. knows how to bait the defense in to making a throw or not getting ball back to mound. Knows how to get out on purpose in a productive way.

Can handle pressure. If has a bad at bat gets over it and moves on. Does not have days batting under .600 ever with 100% at sacs when needed.



I dont think Tiger fits that description with his past. He is more of a #9 or 10 guy. All rolls are important and if you are in the top 10 ou most likely kick twice anyway so it doesnt matter when you are up because every at bat for a team in tghe game in key. You just need the right players in the right spots that day

Then you shouldn't be the Meatballs #3 kicker

I have not batted under.600 in a tourney since vbko2010

I bunted 2nd time up in jki game. 1st time was a double or nothing situation (clearly the right call w Corey leading off 2nd). Only way i was doing that was by slicing one in to right but i could not time keiths pitch. The 2nd bounce of his is always different. Sometimes it carries more than others