Dice Kickball vs. "?" (aka Flying V)

[Kolanko_25]

"attacking an amatuer athlete for doing everything right? where are we at in society today? come after me. im a man, im FORTY!" - m. gundy

dice kickball isn't the meatballs of anything. ok? we good?

"dice kicball" is the ivan drago of the circuit. a complete unknown from a snowy location. The real question is will the 2012 version of "flying v" be rocky or merely apollo creed?

Dice - we get that you said you're done with the boards, but here's your invitation back. the WEST wants to continue to grow and we want you to be a part of it. dont let the enthnocentrism from teams east of the mississippi let you trip. Relax (respect to TX kickball) beat arguably the best team in the nation, and they barely get mentioned with the big boys like they should. Just sayin...

Pick a tournament (aside from BotW/Chandler) and either get there with 100% your own squad or create a post on here asking for WC availables. I'm confident a lot of us will have your back. I typically pitch or play 1st, but if you need me in your OF depth im there.

[Zak]

you need to get your team to shows up to a circuit event before you get to ask these types of questions

[Kolanko_25]

Is that right? Where I come from there are no rules when it comes to sticking up for the smallest kid on the playground...

If you meant that from a credibility standpoint then I guess you got me there and I digress.

No blatant disrespect was intended to east coast teams and my apologies to Flying V specifically for throwing them in on a post they have nothing to do with.

[JellyDogg]

They could probably get some east coast availables to play with them in some of these tourneys, too. Just sayin'.

[Return of Ctiger]

"attacking an amatuer athlete for doing everything right? where are we at in society today? come after me. im a man, im FORTY!" - m. gundy

dice kickball isn't the meatballs of anything. ok? we good?

"dice kicball" is the ivan drago of the circuit. a complete unknown from a snowy location. The real question is will the 2012 version of "flying v" be rocky or merely apollo creed?

Dice - we get that you said you're done with the boards, but here's your invitation back. the WEST wants to continue to grow and we want you to be a part of it. dont let the enthnocentrism from teams east of the mississippi let you trip. Relax (respect to TX kickball) beat arguably the best team in the nation, and they barely get mentioned with the big boys like they should. Just sayin...

Pick a tournament (aside from BotW/Chandler) and either get there with 100% your own squad or create a post on here asking for WC availables. I'm confident a lot of us will have your back. I typically pitch or play 1st, but if you need me in your OF depth im there.

This post makes me chuckle... Why would a team want to add players from a team that isn't even the best team in Arizona? That's like a D1 college wanting to add players from a D3 school for their bowl game.. This is funny to me. You are getting so mad about me calling a team out, but in reality this is what gets most teams to come BACK... Being all nice to teams doesn't work.. see tropics... we were all nice, they came out, got worked over and then disappeared... We don't want teams to come to an event, we want them to sign up for the circuit.. what better way to do that then to give them a reason.. Their reason now is that they want to make me put my foot in my mouth. Obviously some people like you would rather be best fwiends with everyone.. there is an organization for that already.. it's called WAKA..

Dice, I meant no disrespect in my post to you, I was just trying to stir some shit up and hopefully get you out to a tournament.

As far as Relax goes they followed up their win against a Meatballs skeleton crew by losing to some crap team in Vegas... bye bye credibility..

As far as Flying V goes we'll see how it goes in about a month at SFKO.. Then we will talk about it

[Zak]

Is that right? Where I come from there are no rules when it comes to sticking up for the smallest kid on the playground...

Nah, I was just messing with you

[Zak]

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As far as Relax goes they followed up their win against a Meatballs skeleton crew by losing to some crap team in Vegas... bye bye credibility...

Yeah, if you can't make it the Semi Finals in the Founder's Cup you lose any credibility that you have.

[Captain_Relax]

As far as Relax goes they followed up their win against a Meatballs skeleton crew by losing to some crap team in Vegas... bye bye credibility..

Alright I'll bite.
1) The MB and Relax had the same number of players playing that day
2) The MB seemed to be missing one of their players that is a large difference maker in BK. Relax was missing one of our players that makes a big difference by not having our leadoff.
3) The CA team definitely has our number at this point, but they are not crap, they've made the final 4 the past 3 FC's. And no saying they have been on the easy side of the bracket all three years will not be a valid arguement.
4) The team we took to Vegas was not a representation of our normal team. Our CH broke his leg warming up for the first game and didn't play all day so we played with a guy who had NEVER played charger before since our back up couldn't make the trip. Our 1B who is a huge part of our team was also not able to make the trip.

[krabbas]

As far as Relax goes they followed up their win against a Meatballs skeleton crew by losing to some crap team in Vegas... bye bye credibility..

Alright I'll bite.
1) The MB and Relax had the same number of players playing that day
2) The MB seemed to be missing one of their players that is a large difference maker in BK. Relax was missing one of our players that makes a big difference by not having our leadoff.
3) The CA team definitely has our number at this point, but they are not crap, they've made the final 4 the past 3 FC's. And no saying they have been on the easy side of the bracket all three years will not be a valid arguement.4) The team we took to Vegas was not a representation of our normal team. Our CH broke his leg warming up for the first game and didn't play all day so we played with a guy who had NEVER played charger before since our back up couldn't make the trip. Our 1B who is a huge part of our team was also not able to make the trip.

Someone ought to make a thread insulting them and "calling them out" so they'll start coming to Circuit events!

[Kolanko_25]

They could probably get some east coast availables to play with them in some of these tourneys, too. Just sayin'.

True, but why would their team need extra players if theyre already established and are in the discussion of being a top 10 circuit team? Not apples to apples.

[Kolanko_25]

Why would a team want to add players from a team that isn't even the best team in Arizona? That's like a D1 college wanting to add players from a D3 school for their bowl game...

wait so dice is now the D1 school with the team I'm on being D3? ok...

I dont expect anyone to understand the hierarchy of AZ kickball, but then again didnt Whiskey Richard make the elite 8 in CC last year? WR doesn't owe me any favors, but I'm sure they would tell you STTB is not far behind.

[FlyingV]

Why would a team want to add players from a team that isn't even the best team in Arizona? That's like a D1 college wanting to add players from a D3 school for their bowl game...

wait so dice is now the D1 school with the team I'm on being D3? ok...

I dont expect anyone to understand the hierarchy of AZ kickball, but then again didnt Whiskey Richard make the elite 8 in CC last year? WR doesn't owe me any favors, but I'm sure they would tell you STTB is not far behind.

No, but there was recent video footage of a Whiskey/STTB game put online. That WR team was a step down from the one that represented them in Vegas and it looked like a game played by middle schooler's. (See Trey's breakdown from a previous thread on the things gone wrong, by both teams). Y'all may not be far behind in AZ standards, but you're not even close to being in the discussion for a Top 10 ranking.

[Kolanko_25]

No, but there was recent video footage of a Whiskey/STTB game put online. That WR team was a step down from the one that represented them in Vegas and it looked like a game played by middle schooler's. (See Trey's breakdown from a previous thread on the things gone wrong, by both teams). Y'all may not be far behind in AZ standards, but you're not even close to being in the discussion for a Top 10 ranking.

Never said we were.

Fair enough on the video call outs. ~5-7 or so of those players will be on the circuit roster, so I guess we'll just have to wait & see.

Now that you brought it up though, let me know where I can find the best video footage of Flying V. I'd love to check out 100% error free D1 kickball

[FlyingV]

No, but there was recent video footage of a Whiskey/STTB game put online. That WR team was a step down from the one that represented them in Vegas and it looked like a game played by middle schooler's. (See Trey's breakdown from a previous thread on the things gone wrong, by both teams). Y'all may not be far behind in AZ standards, but you're not even close to being in the discussion for a Top 10 ranking.

Never said we were.

Fair enough on the video call outs. ~5-7 or so of those players will be on the circuit roster, so I guess we'll just have to wait & see.

Now that you brought it up though, let me know where I can find the best video footage of Flying V. I'd love to check out 100% error free D1 kickball

Youtube

[Return of Ctiger]

Why would a team want to add players from a team that isn't even the best team in Arizona? That's like a D1 college wanting to add players from a D3 school for their bowl game...

wait so dice is now the D1 school with the team I'm on being D3? ok...

I dont expect anyone to understand the hierarchy of AZ kickball, but then again didnt Whiskey Richard make the elite 8 in CC last year? WR doesn't owe me any favors, but I'm sure they would tell you STTB is not far behind.

HAHA hierarchy of AZ kickball.. that's like caring to understand what middle school basketball team is #35 in the state of North Dakota.. Whiskey made the elite 8 last year by beating a Situation team that may have been the worst team they have ever put on the field.. It was their pitcher and no one else.. The fact that you are behind them at all means that you are trying to say that making the first round of eliminations would prove something... All that means is you beat the team in your pool that was there to have fun (most likely a team with Kim or Barcus on it). When you see replies like the one that STL ballers posted in the other thread, and then get mad about me calling teams like them out, you just look like a kid that got bullied in high school or something and you still reallllly hate bullies. I have said numerous times that what I said to Dice should have motivated them to want to play. They constantly talk about how they have no competition, but then post how great their record is and how many leagues and local tournaments they win... What's next? are the meatballs gonna sign up for every local waka league down here and then come on the boards and let us know they won 20-0 every game? No, they won't do that cause it's dumb.. I was trying to get a team that talks about how good they are IN DENVER to come join the circuit

[Bellman]

Whiskey made the elite 8 last year by beating a Situation team that may have been the worst team they have ever put on the field.. It was their pitcher and no one else..

That is a very inaccurate statement. Situation lost two games that day, vs. Meatballs in pool play (and likely resting at 2-0), and against us in elimination. You are just saying that because we had two bad innings all day and one of them was against you on FL. The other was against Superdudes in the elite 8 and we (our team and spectators of the game) all know we should have won that game anyways. That was our flaw last year... giving up the occasional big inning. Ask NYSH if they thought we were a formidable opponent when we lost to them 2-1 in what was about an inch from being a 3-2 victory.

Kolanko isn't suggesting they should be considered top 10... why would he? You aren't talking about WR for that either. Also, how often do you see D1 schools taking players from D2/3 schools and Junior colleges after they are discovered? Mediocre teams on the national scale can still have great players. I don't get how you can perceive the original post negatively, at least if you have the reading comprehension of an adult.

[Kolanko_25]

Whiskey made the elite 8 last year by beating a Situation team that may have been the worst team they have ever put on the field.. It was their pitcher and no one else.. The fact that you are behind them at all means that you are trying to say that making the first round of eliminations would prove something...

youre not saying the circuit failed to provide 8 quality teams in their championship tournament right?

When you see replies like the one that STL ballers posted in the other thread, and then get mad about me calling teams like them out, you just look like a kid that got bullied in high school or something and you still reallllly hate bullies.

"From what I understand the STL team has already attended a circuit event, so I get that they're in a different category, but you need to remember the psyche of a rookie team like dice and be building these guys up before you break em down." - posted by me 2 days ago in the other thread you started boss. already told you I understood the situations were not the same. @ 6'3" / 215 I dont worry about bullies. never have. if youre scared, get a dog

[Trey it Up]

Whiskey made the elite 8 last year by beating a Situation team that may have been the worst team they have ever put on the field.. It was their pitcher and no one else..

That is a very inaccurate statement. Situation lost two games that day, vs. Meatballs in pool play (and likely resting at 2-0), and against us in elimination. You are just saying that because we had two bad innings all day and one of them was against you on FL. The other was against Superdudes in the elite 8 and we (our team and spectators of the game) all know we should have won that game anyways. That was our flaw last year... giving up the occasional big inning. Ask NYSH if they thought we were a formidable opponent when we lost to them 2-1 in what was about an inch from being a 3-2 victory.

Kolanko isn't suggesting they should be considered top 10... why would he? You aren't talking about WR for that either. Also, how often do you see D1 schools taking players from D2/3 schools and Junior colleges after they are discovered? Mediocre teams on the national scale can still have great players. I don't get how you can perceive the original post negatively, at least if you have the reading comprehension of an adult.

Two things make Situation good: A fresh Blake pitching, and Larry charging. Larry wasn't in Vegas and won't be in sfko.

[Bellman]

Two things make Situation great: A fresh Blake pitching, and Larry charging. Larry wasn't in Vegas and won't be in sfko.

Two players do not make a team. Sure they may be the core of a team, but they have some great players around them as well. Considering the long grass that day, bunting was a catcher's ball more often than not. If it was hard enough to be a charger's ball and wasn't painting the line, it was an easy play for a strong arm, and their charger that day did have a cannon. Blake's pitching made it difficult to paint the line and we didn't beat them by bunting, so IMO Larry wouldn't have made a big difference, at least defensively. Besides, they beat Foster Kids, JKI and Surrender the Booty by a total of 17-2. The were still a very good team.

[Trey it Up]

Two great players at two key positions can absolutely make a decent team good or a good team great. Take Flades and Corey off of the Meatballs and they fall back into the pack with the Top 5. Situation is very similar. The difference is that with Blake and Larry they're a top 5-7 team...without them, they're a top 10-15.

[Bellman]

Two great players at two key positions can absolutely make a decent team good or a good team great. Take Flades and Corey off of the Meatballs and they fall back into the pack with the Top 5. Situation is very similar. The difference is that with Blake and Larry they're a top 5-7 team...without them, they're a top 10-15.

That's basically what I was saying. Your previous comment suggested that without Blake and Larry, they aren't even a good team. Without both, they are top 10-15, and without one, they are likely somewhere in between. I was also just suggesting that Larry wouldn't have made much of a difference in our particular game, as we weren't bunting successfully anyways and the guy who did charge was still a very good replacement for what was needed considering the field conditions.

[Trey it Up]

Two great players at two key positions can absolutely make a decent team good or a good team great. Take Flades and Corey off of the Meatballs and they fall back into the pack with the Top 5. Situation is very similar. The difference is that with Blake and Larry they're a top 5-7 team...without them, they're a top 10-15.

That's basically what I was saying. Your previous comment suggested that without Blake and Larry, they aren't even a good team. Without both, they are top 10-15, and without one, they are likely somewhere in between. I was also just suggesting that Larry wouldn't have made much of a difference in our particular game, as we weren't bunting successfully anyways and the guy who did charge was still a very good replacement for what was needed considering the field conditions.

Considering there are barely 15 Circuit teams top 10-15 doesn't qualify as a notable win to me.

[Kolanko_25]

Youtube

Is this a joke?

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[Trey it Up]

This was very early in The V's competitive career. Also of note: the rules they play by in their Gokickball league makes teams look bad.

[Typod]

No, but there was recent video footage of a Whiskey/STTB game put online. That WR team was a step down from the one that represented them in Vegas and it looked like a game played by middle schooler's. (See Trey's breakdown from a previous thread on the things gone wrong, by both teams). Y'all may not be far behind in AZ standards, but you're not even close to being in the discussion for a Top 10 ranking.

Never said we were.

Fair enough on the video call outs. ~5-7 or so of those players will be on the circuit roster, so I guess we'll just have to wait & see.

Now that you brought it up though, let me know where I can find the best video footage of Flying V. I'd love to check out 100% error free D1 kickball

Youtube

Come on now. I watched the video of the game you are referring to, and I watched you get pummeled by OSC 9-3 in the inferior WAKA tourney. You have no room to call anyone middle schoolers. Really? Stop talking shit.

Be real here....

[Bellman]

Considering there are barely 15 Circuit teams top 10-15 doesn't qualify as a notable win to me.

You're right, it's no better than beating a 10-15 team in our Friday night Nakad league. My bad... I guess I somehow thought that there was some sort of prestige associated with the circuit, that it was supposed to be made up of the best teams in the country.

[Trey it Up]

Considering there are barely 15 Circuit teams top 10-15 doesn't qualify as a notable win to me.

You're right, it's no better than beating a 10-15 team in our Friday night Nakad league. My bad... I guess I somehow thought that there was some sort of prestige associated with the circuit, that it was supposed to be made up of the best teams in the country.

The Top 5-10 Circuit teams are without question the best kickball teams in the country. After that, there are probably hundreds of teams that could knock off the rest of the Circuit field.

[Kolanko_25]

This was very early in The V's competitive career. Also of note: the rules they play by in their Gokickball league makes teams look bad.

early days huh -- how much has changed in 7 months?

Is there a rule that the pitchers have to be horrendous in this home town league?

[Kolanko_25]

The Top 5-10 Circuit teams are without question the best kickball teams in the country. After that, there are probably hundreds of teams that could knock off the rest of the Circuit field.

"Kickball365 is not your daddy’s country club. We are the home for kickball competition in America. The Circuit is the only national, professional tour of top-flight, competitive kickball tournaments, but after all that we can only offer 5-10 legit teams"

Is this more what you had in mind?

[Trey it Up]

This was very early in The V's competitive career. Also of note: the rules they play by in their Gokickball league makes teams look bad.

early days huh -- how much has changed in 7 months?

Is there a rule that the pitchers have to be horrendous in this home town league?

Its an underhand league and the ball can't bounce higher than a six inch cone.

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[Trey it Up]

The Top 5-10 Circuit teams are without question the best kickball teams in the country. After that, there are probably hundreds of teams that could knock off the rest of the Circuit field.

"Kickball365 is not your daddy’s country club. We are the home for kickball competition in America. The Circuit is the only national, professional tour of top-flight, competitive kickball tournaments, but after all that we can only offer 5-10 legit teams"

Is this more what you had in mind?

All the teams in the Circuit are good; but to think that the 15th best Circuit team is the 15th best team in the country is foolish. The Situation was a Top 10 Circuit team but only the 3rd best team in their hometown league last Fall. There are a lot of situations like that.

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[j22201]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrnZ5NIq ... ature=plcp

This is a video of us in the GKO circuit event that we made the final 4. We have all kinds of video on us out there as we have played in a ton of circuit events. We have competed at a high level with the best of the best. Are we great? Not by any means. But we are def better then any Arizona team.

[Zak]

... But we are def better then any Arizona team.

Especially in a contest of who can give up more runs to the Shower Hammers

[j22201]

Ha, After playing 12 games in two days with 6 guys and 4 girls, we weren't much of a D.

[Return of Ctiger]

Ha, After playing 12 games in two days with 6 guys and 4 girls, we weren't much of a D.

Don't respond to that shit Joe... I'll take care of the defensive problems

[Return of Ctiger]

The Top 5-10 Circuit teams are without question the best kickball teams in the country. After that, there are probably hundreds of teams that could knock off the rest of the Circuit field.

"Kickball365 is not your daddy’s country club. We are the home for kickball competition in America. The Circuit is the only national, professional tour of top-flight, competitive kickball tournaments, but after all that we can only offer 5-10 legit teams"

Is this more what you had in mind?

They should sell it like that... better chances of sorry ass teams like yours playing

[FlyingV]

Come on now. I watched the video of the game you are referring to, and I watched you get pummeled by OSC 9-3 in the inferior WAKA tourney. You have no room to call anyone middle schoolers. Really? Stop talking shit.

Be real here....

And how did y'all do at FC?

I'm not talking shit, just giving ones persons opinion based on the evidence I've seen of Kolanko's group of misfits. Depriving me of that would be like saying Journalist Tim Kurkjian can't criticize Albert Pujols for striking out 3 times in a game.

When I see new talent, I praise it. (See my comments about RED after watching one of his ULTRA videos).

If you're defending AZ b/c they're in the West, so be it... we all know that's a losing battle. But if you're defending them b/c you think I'm wrong and they're a legit team- get your eyes checked.

[j22201]

ha, getting to the elite 8 and losing to the team that won it all is such a sorry disgrace. I'm sorry. Especially when we only had the min amount of guys and girls. I actually like a lot of the guys out of AZ, but I believe I spoke the truth. Funny thing is that even in our first ever circuit, we made it out of pool play and lost to panik like 2-0. How did you guys do in your first circuit? Have you ever made a final 4?

[Typod]

And how did y'all do at FC?

Led OSC for 4 1/2 innings. Took them to extras where they squeaked out a narrow victory and said publicly on the WAKA blog we were the toughest challenge of the day.

Then they walked over and beat you 9-3.

[Typod]

And FWIW I don't call anyone "middle schoolers" or say anyone is garbage. How my team did in FC is irrelevant. I was merely stating that you guys should probably take it easy on calling teams terrible.